Does anyone know GBB 27C?

[ebbadger]

plus no points for engine or running gear etc etc... like I said just don't advertise the fact or someone will shop you claiming its for the good of all owners or other drivel

cheers steve

 

[YOREVOL]

thanks guys.

 

[Ltwt Hybrid 300tdi]

would it lose points for the original chassis being modified.

Tricky one because it is it's original chassis converted to coils so no question of another vehicles identity, like you would have with a shortened RR chassis. But it is modified to take the coils. Not sure.

Chassis worth 5 points. You lose 2 points for the axles, 1 point for engine. 2 if transmission changed. You need to keep 8 points to retain original ID/reg no.

I looked at the pics of this when it was on Ebay and saw the old type series chassis underneath. Thought it looked quite honest but did think, as mentioned, that Lightweights were not about in '65. But as said it could of had a series 2a body previously.

 

[YOREVOL]

its definitely not a shortened rangey chassis, or 2 front rangey chassis as i first assumed. it has been done well to utilise the front suspension set up on the rear. just needs power steering and some leg room. 6'3" 16 stone into a series with car seats is cramped and entry/exit most amusing to the neighbours.

 

[Ltwt Hybrid 300tdi]

You could use form V888 from post office and for £5 (I think) find out all the info held by Dvla. See if mods are declared etc. What dates they were done if declared. Then you may know more of it's legal status. Do you know if it is the original chassis that's been modified? I can't remember the pics well enough now to give an opinion. But I do remember thinking it was not Rangie. Could be wrong.

 

[YOREVOL]

i'll do that when the v5 comes in my name. good thinking.

 

[ebbadger]

Tricky one because it is it's original chassis converted to coils so no question of another vehicles identity, like you would have with a shortened RR chassis. But it is modified to take the coils. .

woahhhh there gents ... not tricky at all.... its absolutely, completely, totally, unreservedly, wholly, unmistakeably black and white

the chassis has to be... and I quote...

'original and unmodified or a brand new replacement of original specification'

adding coils.. shortening .... changing outriggers etc etc etc is a mod

unfortunately since SVA was introduced this has been the case ...

cheers steve

 

[ebbadger]

the chassis mods wont be listed... as you cant declare it on a v5?? nowhere does a v5 say... suspension type

cheers steve

 

[YOREVOL]

saved a fiver.

 

[ebbadger]

whatever you do don't start asking dvla... they employ clerks who know nothing of older cars and pre sva... doesn't compute and people have ended up in a world of pain by asking what should be a simple question...

90% still aren't even aware that an engine change on a tax exempt vehicle no longer needs an engineer report when swopped for a different engine.... and that came in over 12 months ago ...

cheers steve

 

[YOREVOL]

is that for a different engine of the same type? or a completely different make?

 

[ebbadger]

completely different or replacement if u get a real jobsworth... they don't know there own deapartments rules... have the correct document somewhere cos I needed it last summer to get a simple v5 change...

cheers steve

 

[Ltwt Hybrid 300tdi]

yeah its a 2A petrol .... lightweight vins are 236*** - 239***... but like I said your better off telling people built pre 96 ... i got sick of the questions with mine and accusations of ringer.... I ended up carrying a copy of the V5 showing the registered but built bit as it got reported so many times... some people have nothing better to do...

sounds a fun motor though.. so where are the pics

Cheers Steve

People tend to think that because we have SVA/points system now, that it must have always existed!! Despite the fact that thousands of hybrids were built perfectly legally pre SVA. The problem is not the genuine hybrids, it's the 90/110's running around on series ID's and that is, I think, why they get viewed with such suspicion. That and the fact a lot of these do gooders don't actually understand the laws themselves and what came in when.

 

[Ltwt Hybrid 300tdi]

whatever you do don't start asking dvla... they employ clerks who know nothing of older cars and pre sva... doesn't compute and people have ended up in a world of pain by asking what should be a simple question...

90% still aren't even aware that an engine change on a tax exempt vehicle no longer needs an engineer report when swopped for a different engine.... and that came in over 12 months ago ...

cheers steve

Good point, but as I understood it they don't read through it all, it's just a data request. But you are right, they won't have the mods listed. Me be stupid. Sorry

 

[YOREVOL]

try ebay listing 141147130052 for some pics.

 

[ebbadger]

just seen it... quite like it although its a genuine late series 3 lightweight modded to take coils... nothing remotely s2 or 2a on it apart from the reg plate lol....

do like the way they have done the rear axle by fitting a front axle casing .. was trying to work out why it had radius arms front and rear... quite a clever set up

fun looking motor

cheers steve

 

[YOREVOL]

its not a front axle case. if you look closely you'll see the dampers are in the same place as on a rear axle. i think its had front brackets welded to a rear case, thats what i will be doing with my salisburys when i fit them. i think its a 2a chassis as it has steering relays?

 

[ebbadger]

steering relays???

has it got a plate behind the front bumper joining the front outriggers?

cheers steve

 

[YOREVOL]

what does the plate look like?
it has steering relays, steering wheel joined to a box then a rod linkage to the main box.

 

[ebbadger]

what does the plate look like?
it has steering relays, steering wheel joined to a box then a rod linkage to the main box.

yeah steering box is common to series 2a and 3's the front outriggers may well be joined at the very front as if reinforcing the centre of the bumper....