Probably think it's an app (we'll, it is now) and are wondering why I would fold my phone in half, mind you that's possible with some phones.
I have two mobiles one a "smart" one that I only bought cos I had to have one to go to France at the time of Covid so needed the NHS app, the other, an old Motorola DOES indeed fold in half. Both remain switched off 99% of the time.
It apprently has some internet functionality, but as you have probably guessed, I haven't bothered to find out how to work it for that.

Technophobia rules, OK?! 🀣 🀣
 
Waze factors in ULEZ and such like stuff, Maps, and paper maps, don't. When I'm in the boring economical car this is important.

The phone satnav won me over on one particular trip. I was going from Bovington tank proving grounds to south Wales one evening. Google maps suddenly decided to divert me off the main road into an unpaved road just over the hill. I scoffed.

I crested the hill to see a car park instead of a road, so unpaved road it was. Every junction was jammed with cars in one direction, but the satnav faultlessly guided me on to the M4, going against the traffic jams. I was delayed about ten minutes in total.

There was a concert in Longleat, Elton John or someone.

Since then I use the satnav on most long journeys, and it's proven a good choice.
 
for the simple reason that having to touch the screen involves taking one's eyes off the road, and whatever that person is doing, they are being distracted from the job of driving.
Distracted from or being part of driving a modern car?

Lets face it, looking at a speedo, rev counter or any other gauge takes ones eyes off the road. As does looking out of the side windows or in the rear view mirrors. Let alone things like heater and fan controls or dare I say it a radio/stereo.
 
I have two mobiles one a "smart" one that I only bought cos I had to have one to go to France at the time of Covid so needed the NHS app, the other, an old Motorola DOES indeed fold in half. Both remain switched off 99% of the time.
It apprently has some internet functionality, but as you have probably guessed, I haven't bothered to find out how to work it for that.

Technophobia rules, OK?! 🀣 🀣
That's fine and all, but probably speaks volumes about your age and generation more than anything.... again nothing wrong with that. But things do evolve and progress. Just because you don't like or don't want to keep up doesn't make them wrong.
 
Waze factors in ULEZ and such like stuff, Maps, and paper maps, don't. When I'm in the boring economical car this is important.

The phone satnav won me over on one particular trip. I was going from Bovington tank proving grounds to south Wales one evening. Google maps suddenly decided to divert me off the main road into an unpaved road just over the hill. I scoffed.

I crested the hill to see a car park instead of a road, so unpaved road it was. Every junction was jammed with cars in one direction, but the satnav faultlessly guided me on to the M4, going against the traffic jams. I was delayed about ten minutes in total.

There was a concert in Longleat, Elton John or someone.

Since then I use the satnav on most long journeys, and it's proven a good choice.
Sygic taught me that if there's a hint of slowing on the clockwise M25, come off at J14, straight over the roundabout and rejoin. It's hilarious. (Stay left for as long as you dare before the M4).
 
You can't touch it wherever it is. Guess that is where voice command works.
You can poke it as long as you aren't holding it.
Below is from the gov website

Using devices hands-free​


You can use devices with hands-free access, as long as you do not hold them at any time during usage. Hands-free access means using, for example:


  • a Bluetooth headset
  • voice command
  • a dashboard holder or mat
  • a windscreen mount
  • a built-in sat nav

The device must not block your view of the road and traffic ahead.

So legally you can change your destination etc which is dumb!
 
You can poke it as long as you aren't holding it.
Below is from the gov website

Using devices hands-free​


You can use devices with hands-free access, as long as you do not hold them at any time during usage. Hands-free access means using, for example:


  • a Bluetooth headset
  • voice command
  • a dashboard holder or mat
  • a windscreen mount
  • a built-in sat nav

The device must not block your view of the road and traffic ahead.

So legally you can change your destination etc which is dumb!
Pretty sure you can't even poke it.
 
You can poke it as long as you aren't holding it.
Below is from the gov website

Using devices hands-free​


You can use devices with hands-free access, as long as you do not hold them at any time during usage. Hands-free access means using, for example:


  • a Bluetooth headset
  • voice command
  • a dashboard holder or mat
  • a windscreen mount
  • a built-in sat nav

The device must not block your view of the road and traffic ahead.

So legally you can change your destination etc which is dumb!
Quite! Try typing in "Villeneuve D'Asq" or somesuch without taking your eyes off the road much.
Mad! :mad::mad::mad:
 
I've been playing with voice access on android. It's pretty good. One clever bit is telling it to show a grid, then you just say the number over the button you want.
 
I've been playing with voice access on android. It's pretty good. One clever bit is telling it to show a grid, then you just say the number over the button you want.
Pretty please, sugar on the top! What is the name of the app?

You can guess how much it pains me to say it but a voice command one would come in useful. (And I have an Android.)
 
Pretty please, sugar on the top! What is the name of the app?

You can guess how much it pains me to say it but a voice command one would come in useful. (And I have an Android.)
Go to the Play Store and get Voice Access, make sure you get the one made by Google. Takes a bit of time to learn, but it's doing everything I want.
 
I have to say the arguments about phone holders gets out of hand sometimes. The satnav capabilities these days on phone is probably far superior to the car makers, and their updates (cost), So a well positioned phone is not an issue in my mind. Using a phone in hand while driving is a no no, I am fine and in full agreement with that.

We have phone connection to the car so can receive a call with a press of a button on the steering wheel, then chat as if you were talking to a passenger, no wrong in that?

M recently brought a screen to connect the phone for our drive down to Greece and our other use (JLR updates are not cheap and usually out of date), it is not tall but is wide, it sits on the top of the dash in the center and does not impeded any view we had before (in the L322). It connects to the car so will interrupt the radio/whatever you are listening too (if you want). It takes a second to look and follow.

Now if you want a holder so you can see all your social media response's and respond at that time then forget everything I have said.

Time and Place ;).

Waze is great:)

J
 
I've looked at Voice Access, and pardon me if I have misunderstood, but it just seems to be a way of making your mobile, as it is, react to voice commands. not specifically for mobile Sat Nav apps. But I am perfectly aware that I know s0d all about mobiles.

So I looked elsewhere on the web for voice "commanded" Sat navs and they seem to be a very mixed bunch. AND only built in ones.
Also lots of people saying previously good mobile apps aren't as good as they used to be.

And of course lots of opposing comments.
BUT!!!!
Guess what, some (one assumes) TomToms can be controlled by voice command!!

click on this no tso obvious link below!


Don't know if ours do this but if they do I@ll be well chuffed!
Will check soonish!!:dance:
 
Just checked "TomTom says "No"!

:(:(:(

But then typical as bought an end of line low range one.
Will have to see if one with voice control is expensive.
 
I've looked at Voice Access, and pardon me if I have misunderstood, but it just seems to be a way of making your mobile, as it is, react to voice commands. not specifically for mobile Sat Nav apps. But I am perfectly aware that I know s0d all about mobiles.

So I looked elsewhere on the web for voice "commanded" Sat navs and they seem to be a very mixed bunch. AND only built in ones.
Also lots of people saying previously good mobile apps aren't as good as they used to be.

And of course lots of opposing comments.
BUT!!!!
Guess what, some (one assumes) TomToms can be controlled by voice command!!

click on this no tso obvious link below!


Don't know if ours do this but if they do I@ll be well chuffed!
Will check soonish!!:dance:
Voice access lets you open any app and control it.

Lucky find on your TomTom.
 
Bloke selling them in eBay allegedly brand new but in an unmarked box for 80 sovs.
I might have got one if I were in the UK.
 
well as you now know it would have been but sadly ain't!
Still!
In which case, try Sygic on your 'phone. (I've tried all the others). It's worth paying for but just use the free version for now.

Get used to it before going on to play with voice access.
 

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