The 200tdi (and perhaps others) exhaust manifold. What a pain it is to do that central bottom nut! No bloody room..!
 
Im not sure, but I think the first few years production were galv. chassis, but it was decided to go to paint outside/waxoyl inside, as yousay the saving must be small in a production line set up.
Always found it irritating that they didn't galv. chassis and bulkhead, also why they stopped galvanising the body cappings and windscreen surround which had worked well for decades. :confused:

because they wanted to sell more vehicles to their customers.

it takes a lot of money to get a customer and it's a lot easier and cheaper to sell an existing customer a product. so you'd soon go out of business if you built a vehicle that someone only needed to buy once.
 
because they wanted to sell more vehicles to their customers.

it takes a lot of money to get a customer and it's a lot easier and cheaper to sell an existing customer a product. so you'd soon go out of business if you built a vehicle that someone only needed to buy once.

not exactly true people that buy new change them regular ,well before the built in obsolescence kicks in
 
because they wanted to sell more vehicles to their customers.

it takes a lot of money to get a customer and it's a lot easier and cheaper to sell an existing customer a product. so you'd soon go out of business if you built a vehicle that someone only needed to buy once.
There are different ways to get the money out of a customer. Although lrs aren't great for build quality, the parts were very cheap for decades, and still reasonable now.
The Japanese have a different approach, they sell a competently engineered vehicle for a very competitive price, but God help you if it does pack up, cos the parts are very expensive!:eek: And they will try and sell you the special branded oil and paddock jacket to screw a few extra bucks out of you.
 
not exactly true people that buy new change them regular ,well before the built in obsolescence kicks in

point. do the farmers though? maybe the ones up here are tight, but they run farm vehicles into the ground first.

There are different ways to get the money out of a customer. Although lrs aren't great for build quality, the parts were very cheap for decades, and still reasonable now.
The Japanese have a different approach, they sell a competently engineered vehicle for a very competitive price, but God help you if it does pack up, cos the parts are very expensive!:eek: And they will try and sell you the special branded oil and paddock jacket to screw a few extra bucks out of you.

tell me about it, that's one of the main reasons i bought a fender
 
+1 for the chassis. Could have made a great vehicle last forever.
At an average replacement cost of £3k (if you're lucky with the garage), Land Rover ensured that lots of otherwise serviceable vehicles go the the scrapper. Not everyone has the will or ability
 
Oops ... cotd. to change a chassis themselves. It's a great project, but if you need the vehicle as a daily driver, it's not on. I'm just at the point of needing a new chassis - although I suppose 28 years on the old one isn't bad :)
 
the rear x-member, why they couldnt make it not have those massive unsealed seams i dont know.......
 
the rear x-member, why they couldnt make it not have those massive unsealed seams i dont know.......

It is fantastic the way they built a shelf on the front of the crossmember where mud and other corrosive material can neatly collect as it spits up from the wheel :confused:
 
Sunroof gets a vote for me, one of the few cars where it is a specific requirement to not have a sunroof.
 
the lack of rear arch liners, the incomplete front ones!
That is a pet hate of mine too! Surely some kind of plastic tub under the rear arches would stop all the corrosive grit getting fired at the chassis, fuel filler etc. And very cheap to produce and fit.
The front is unbelievable, could have been designed to rust, the way the bulkhead is exposed to the grit blast is bad enough, and then they put the outrigger where it will retain any ****e tht falls off :confused::confused:
 
Don't like the silly grab handle on the dash to help passengers get in.
Fine for a child but useless for anyone with a little girth.
 
There are different ways to get the money out of a customer. Although lrs aren't great for build quality, the parts were very cheap for decades, and still reasonable now.
The Japanese have a different approach, they sell a competently engineered vehicle for a very competitive price, but God help you if it does pack up, cos the parts are very expensive!:eek: And they will try and sell you the special branded oil and paddock jacket to screw a few extra bucks out of you.

Instead of teddy bears, mugs, hats, clothes, dog bowls with the logo on them..... Land Rover Clothing & Gifts Store - Land Rover Merchandise, clothing and accessories
 
Don't like the silly grab handle on the dash to help passengers get in.
Fine for a child but useless for anyone with a little girth.

haha yes, mine was attached to a wiper cover so rusty it ripped off lol
 
Don't like the silly grab handle on the dash to help passengers get in.
Fine for a child but useless for anyone with a little girth.

I always told first-time passengers not to grab it as I thought it wasn't a proper handle given that it seemed so flimsy. It wasn't until I saw an interior parts manual where it was listed as a "grab handle" that I realised what it was actually for. I'm still a little dubious about its ability to handle any weight though...
 
My vote goes for the heater/dash plenum, it was fine in the series three, there were a lot of similar designs in the 70's but really could they not have designed something a little better? Used a bit of ducting rather than hopelessly pumping slightly warmed air into a pretty unsealed box!!

And then when everyone knew it was useless did it have to wait until the tdci to have a proper system fitted!
 

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