Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?
> >
> >
>
> Those are verbs? Triumph, maybe ...
>
> Let's go <insert your favorite ride here>ing. Let's go Truimphing? Let's go
> Fording? Dodging? Nope, only "let's go Jeeping." makes any sense as a verb.

only one I don't see is "rover"

"ford" = cross a stream at a shallow spot
"dodge" = get the hell out of the way
"triumph" = well, that's obvious

nate

Yes, dodging bullets, fording streams, triumphing over Saddam, roving around
England are all verbs. But none of them are nearly the same as Jeeping in
the woods.

You guys must be liberals, everything has to be explained.




"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vg1m7j6a2799e3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?
> >
> >
>
> Those are verbs? Triumph, maybe ...
>
> Let's go <insert your favorite ride here>ing. Let's go Truimphing? Let's
go
> Fording? Dodging? Nope, only "let's go Jeeping." makes any sense as a
verb.
>
>
>
>
>

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Yes, dodging bullets, fording streams, triumphing over Saddam, roving around
> England are all verbs. But none of them are nearly the same as Jeeping in
> the woods.
>
> You guys must be liberals, everything has to be explained.
>



Troll: An idiot who says something deliberately inflammatory on usenet,
not necessarily the originator of a thread.

"Maxwell Smart" <Agent86@control.com> wrote in message
news:4N2Ma.174430$eJ2.10772@fed1read07...
>
>
> As for the Mac v. PC; is it your contention that opinions are not allowed?
FYI if you work
> in a field that deals with both formats and the problems therein, it makes
one hell of a
> difference. I'll make it easier. Cruise the software section and see what
it's like. Hint:
> does beta v. VHS ring a bell?
>

True for desktop apps but Mac's are rapidly becoming the UNIX workstation of
choice
for those that are still using them. A Mac running OS X can't beat a full
blown UNIX server,
of course, but X windows applications are a thing of beauty on them.

As to how this relates to cars, beats me.

Ted

>

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vg1m7j6a2799e3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?
> >
> >
>
> Those are verbs? Triumph, maybe ...
>
> Let's go <insert your favorite ride here>ing. Let's go Truimphing? Let's
go
> Fording? Dodging? Nope, only "let's go Jeeping." makes any sense as a
verb.
>
>

You've never done any *fording* with your Jeep?
You MUST be a newbie.

Dave

I knew what you meant - I was just taking you literally for fun.


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vg1m7j6a2799e3@corp.supernews.com...
:
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: news:Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?
: >
: >
:
: Those are verbs? Triumph, maybe ...
:
: Let's go <insert your favorite ride here>ing. Let's go Truimphing? Let's
go
: Fording? Dodging? Nope, only "let's go Jeeping." makes any sense as a
verb.
:
:
:
:
:

I just have a dry sense of humour and didn't put the smilie on...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Robbie and Laura Reynolds" <robbie@kcnet.com> wrote in message
news:3F00F2D5.2A7AAB5B@kcnet.com...
: Jeff Strickland wrote:
: >
: > Yes, dodging bullets, fording streams, triumphing over Saddam, roving
around
: > England are all verbs. But none of them are nearly the same as Jeeping
in
: > the woods.
: >
: > You guys must be liberals, everything has to be explained.
: >
:
:
:
: Troll: An idiot who says something deliberately inflammatory on usenet,
: not necessarily the originator of a thread.

Hooray.....a pro SUV comment.

I've rescued Jeep, and SUV, owners in the high Nevada/Arizona desert on more
than one occasion. The Jeep is a fantastic off road toy and can be a lot of
fun but is not infallible and is not meant to be taken into places where
help isn't available or the conditions are hostile. Every year there are
stories where people died of exposure after breaking down in some remote
location. Sometimes you don't have the option of cutting off your arm and
you just die. A Jeep is capable of getting you into trouble further from
what any sane person would consider a road and possible help. It's the
drivers who are in need of attention. These particular people (and they are
the visible minority) have no knowledge or experience with being in the
outback and think that their Jeeps will (not can) go anywhere. George Carlin
has a great bit about kids wearing helmets and that in the old days the ones
that didn't figure things out and got killed were simply weeded out early
before they could do any real damage.

In defense of the true Jeep owners.... Barbie and Ken driving down the
forest road are not having a few beers with Bill and Joe after a day of
rocky, muddy hill climbing in their stripped down, jacked up Jeeps. Their
club is their own and they are welcome to it if it gets them off. I'd sooner
run a cell phone user off of the road than worry about them. Serious Jeep
clubs are like biker clubs. You've got to maintain a level of participation
to remain a member and they hold organized runs and events. They don't want
me and I don't want them. I see them on the road and we always get a little
snicker but they are generally in a lot of discomfort (heat & dust) while
we're in absolute comfort. Jeeps are most visible but there are others.
There's even a Mitsubushi club that holds runs.

The modern Jeep with a V8 and every accessory known to man is nothing more
than a small and heavy cramped SUV and those cutsie ones are not meant for
the mud and the dust. Barbie would choke after ten minutes on a desert road.
They can't go out rock or hill climbing and can't even pack groceries or the
kids. Get hit in one and you could easily die or be maimed. The same is true
for the mega-lifted, tricked out pick ups and Tahoes etc that will never be
seen at a hill climb, let alone on a mining road. Some of them will tip over
if you blow on them. You will definitely not see them hauling rocks or
lumber; the things that they were designed to do. On the other hand, the
Cadillac Esplanade is one of the best stock American 4x4s on the market but
you'll never even see one of them on a gravel road and quite often they will
have large rims and low profile tires. The same goes for the Toyota Land
Cruiser and now the H2. Then there are the RAVs and the Suzukis etc that
should never go off road, without mods, but may be in snow or muddy
conditions that warrant having 4x4. 4x4 on an SUV is an accessory not a
condition of ownership. People shouldn't be criticized for not using it.
Don't encourage it. I don't want them roaming around in the desert.

I drive thousands of miles every year on incredibly dusty southwest desert
roads and get as far as 100 miles from the nearest telephone or service. I
wouldn't have anything else but an SUV in these conditions. Food and gear
stay clean and cool and we can sleep in it. I carry a second spare on the
roof along with gas and tools.

I've gotten way off topic....................

Bob Walker


"SBlackfoot" <trypticon@sympatico.remove.ca> wrote in message
news:8W1Ma.2152$eF3.245957@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > a sheep thing is buying an SUV, which is relatively worthless offroad,
and
> keeping it in
> > your driveway because you peer has done the same. Whatever one says
about
> jeeps, they are
> > one of the top 3 vehicles that actually go offroad. the tahoes,
> expeeditions, durangos,
> > etc. can only wish they could follow.
>
> Uhh... My little stock Jimmy can hang with the stock Jeeps fairly well
> offroad. And my brother's Pathfinder does pretty damned well with it's
> Swampers, although snowbanks have been a problem. lol SUVs are
worthless
> offroad? Rookie.
>
> > as for Macintosh users, well some people like paying more for less and
> being a minority
>
> To each his own. What do you care?
>
>

In article <vg1m7j6a2799e3@corp.supernews.com>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>news:Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?
>>
>>
>
>Those are verbs? Triumph, maybe ...
>
>Let's go <insert your favorite ride here>ing. Let's go Truimphing? Let's go
>Fording? Dodging? Nope, only "let's go Jeeping." makes any sense as a verb.

*snicker*
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.

In article <vg1bire1kdoh66@corp.supernews.com>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> It truly is a "Jeep thing" that few besides another Jeep enthusiast would
>> understand... but I would never actually say or display that phrase on my
>> Jeep as some do. But in many ways, Jeeping is no different than any
>> other hobby that you can spend a lot of money doing.
>>
>> Jerry
>> --
>
>How many car brands can you think of that are also a verb?
>
>
>
>
Rolls? SAAB (pronounced "sob")? Ford. Dodge.

In article <Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?

Rover is a noun (rove would be a verb). Triumph is also a noun. Jeep is not
a verb either.

>
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:vg1bire1kdoh66@corp.supernews.com...
>:
>: >
>: > It truly is a "Jeep thing" that few besides another Jeep enthusiast
>would
>: > understand... but I would never actually say or display that phrase on
>my
>: > Jeep as some do. But in many ways, Jeeping is no different than any
>: > other hobby that you can spend a lot of money doing.
>: >
>: > Jerry
>: > --
>:
>: How many car brands can you think of that are also a verb?
>:
>:
>:
>:
>
>

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> > Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?

>
> Those are verbs? Triumph, maybe ...

Hey, here comes a bullet. You'd better dodge it.

Hey, there's a stream. Let's ford it.

DS

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:bds7a2$qtn$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> Rover is a noun (rove would be a verb). Triumph is also a noun. Jeep is
not
> a verb either.

Perhaps you might want to complain to the folks that sold you that bargain
G.E.D. curriculum, Lloyd, they've let you get by without even basic
knowledge of grammar. Triumph is clearly a verb.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Triumph
Triumph

\Tri"umph\, v. t. To obtain a victory over; to prevail over; to conquer.
Also, to cause to triumph. [Obs.]



Let's see, according to my count this is 'Duh!' number two for the day.
Care to have a go at number three?

--Geoff

"Walker" <walkerent@lvcm.com> wrote in message news:m1eMa.174560$eJ2.117174@fed1read07...
> Hooray.....a pro SUV comment.
>
> I've rescued Jeep, and SUV, owners in the high Nevada/Arizona desert on more
> than one occasion. The Jeep is a fantastic off road toy and can be a lot of
> fun but is not infallible and is not meant to be taken into places where
> help isn't available or the conditions are hostile. Every year there are
> stories where people died of exposure after breaking down in some remote
> location. Sometimes you don't have the option of cutting off your arm and
> you just die. A Jeep is capable of getting you into trouble further from
> what any sane person would consider a road and possible help. It's the
> drivers who are in need of attention. These particular people (and they are
> the visible minority) have no knowledge or experience with being in the
> outback and think that their Jeeps will (not can) go anywhere. George Carlin
> has a great bit about kids wearing helmets and that in the old days the ones
> that didn't figure things out and got killed were simply weeded out early
> before they could do any real damage.

Thank you! Bad pavement drivers are worse offroad drivers. Every week I see people in
vehicles that shouldn't be moved out of their driveway going into remote places and the
fact that they come back alive is due to luck. No spare tires, no food, no water, no first
aid kit, what are these people thinking? Oh; they aren't! (or can't).

>
> The modern Jeep with a V8 and every accessory known to man is nothing more
> than a small and heavy cramped SUV and those cutsie ones are not meant for
> the mud and the dust. Barbie would choke after ten minutes on a desert road.
> They can't go out rock or hill climbing and can't even pack groceries or the
> kids. Get hit in one and you could easily die or be maimed. The same is true
> for the mega-lifted, tricked out pick ups and Tahoes etc that will never be
> seen at a hill climb, let alone on a mining road. Some of them will tip over
> if you blow on them. You will definitely not see them hauling rocks or
> lumber; the things that they were designed to do. On the other hand, the
> Cadillac Esplanade is one of the best stock American 4x4s on the market but
> you'll never even see one of them on a gravel road and quite often they will
> have large rims and low profile tires. The same goes for the Toyota Land
> Cruiser and now the H2. Then there are the RAVs and the Suzukis etc that
> should never go off road, without mods, but may be in snow or muddy
> conditions that warrant having 4x4. 4x4 on an SUV is an accessory not a
> condition of ownership. People shouldn't be criticized for not using it.
> Don't encourage it. I don't want them roaming around in the desert.
>

The reality is that the Forest Service (and non-FS) road infrastructure is decaying. From
the FS side, there is no money to maintain and repair roads. From the non-FS side, many
roads were built by mining or logging interests and those interests have since expired for
a variety of reasons. The result is that the roads are getting narrower, rougher and
require more competent vehicles and drivers. This comes at the same time that American
vehicles are getting longer, wider, lower and softer. See a conflict here? As I run
through the offerings of domestic and foreign SUVs and pickups, very few come to mind that
are ready to tackle the reality of the offroad infrastructure.



> "SBlackfoot" <trypticon@sympatico.remove.ca> wrote in message
> news:8W1Ma.2152$eF3.245957@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > a sheep thing is buying an SUV, which is relatively worthless offroad,
> and
> > keeping it in
> > > your driveway because you peer has done the same. Whatever one says
> about
> > jeeps, they are
> > > one of the top 3 vehicles that actually go offroad. the tahoes,
> > expeeditions, durangos,
> > > etc. can only wish they could follow.
> >
> > Uhh... My little stock Jimmy can hang with the stock Jeeps fairly well
> > offroad. And my brother's Pathfinder does pretty damned well with it's
> > Swampers, although snowbanks have been a problem. lol SUVs are
> worthless
> > offroad? Rookie.
> >
> > > as for Macintosh users, well some people like paying more for less and
> > being a minority
> >
> > To each his own. What do you care?
> >
> >
>
>

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Geoff wrote:

> "Lloyd Parker" wrote:

> > Rover is a noun (rove would be a verb). Triumph is also a noun.

> Perhaps you might want to complain to the folks that sold you that bargain
> G.E.D. curriculum, Lloyd, they've let you get by without even basic
> knowledge of grammar. Triumph is clearly a verb.

Uhm...Geoff? No. It's both a noun and an intransitive verb. You might want
to complain to the folks *who* (not "...the folks THAT...) put together
that bargain dictionary website you used. From the Mirriam-Webster site at
www.webster.com:

2 entries found for triumph.

Triumph [1] noun
Triumph [2] intransitive verb

Didn't you know Moses drove British cars? He descended the mountain in his
triumph...?

DS

> Uhm...Geoff? No. It's both a noun and an intransitive verb. You might want
> to complain to the folks *who* (not "...the folks THAT...) put together
> that bargain dictionary website you used. From the Mirriam-Webster site at
> www.webster.com:

Oops, I didn't mean to imply triumph is a verb and only a verb. My
apologies: I failed to be complete.

Parker's *still* wrong, though. Now that I've been called out, and just for
the sake of completeness:

in·tran·si·tive
(n-trns-tv, -z-)
adj. Abbr. intr. or int. or i.
Designating a verb or verb construction that does not require or cannot
take a direct object, as snow or sleep.
Lest you cast too many aspersions upon dictionary.com (rather than my
misusage of it):

"The dictionaries that appear on Dictionary.com include:
a.. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
b.. Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
c.. WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
d.. The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2001 Denis Howe
e.. Jargon File 4.2.0
f.. CIA World Factbook (1995)
g.. Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
h.. Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary
i.. U.S. Gazetteer, U.S. Census Bureau "
Point of order, Dan: Are you going to call Parker up and read the definition
of intransitive to him, or does that fall upon me?

--Geoff

Rover is a noun. Triumph is a verb, albeit slightly archaic, and a noun.

Since he mentioned Jeep as a verb, I thought I'd get away with Rover.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:bds7a2$qtn$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <Zq2Ma.11930$U02.85671489@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Ford , Dodge, Rover , Triumph ?
:
: Rover is a noun (rove would be a verb). Triumph is also a noun. Jeep is
not
: a verb either.
:
: >
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:vg1bire1kdoh66@corp.supernews.com...
: >:
: >: >
: >: > It truly is a "Jeep thing" that few besides another Jeep enthusiast
: >would
: >: > understand... but I would never actually say or display that phrase
on
: >my
: >: > Jeep as some do. But in many ways, Jeeping is no different than
any
: >: > other hobby that you can spend a lot of money doing.
: >: >
: >: > Jerry
: >: > --
: >:
: >: How many car brands can you think of that are also a verb?
: >:
: >:
: >:
: >:
: >
: >

I didn't think anyone pronounced SAAB as sob.
I don't think truncating Rolls Royce counts

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:bds795$qtn$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <vg1bire1kdoh66@corp.supernews.com>,
: "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >
: >>
: >> It truly is a "Jeep thing" that few besides another Jeep enthusiast
would
: >> understand... but I would never actually say or display that phrase on
my
: >> Jeep as some do. But in many ways, Jeeping is no different than any
: >> other hobby that you can spend a lot of money doing.
: >>
: >> Jerry
: >> --
: >
: >How many car brands can you think of that are also a verb?
: >
: >
: >
: >
: Rolls? SAAB (pronounced "sob")? Ford. Dodge.

"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f01c071$1_2@hpb10302.boi.hp.com...
> > Uhm...Geoff? No. It's both a noun and an intransitive verb. You might
want
> > to complain to the folks *who* (not "...the folks THAT...) put together
> > that bargain dictionary website you used. From the Mirriam-Webster site
at
> > www.webster.com:
>
> Oops, I didn't mean to imply triumph is a verb and only a verb. My
> apologies: I failed to be complete.
>
> Parker's *still* wrong, though. Now that I've been called out, and just
for
> the sake of completeness:
>
> in·tran·si·tive
> (n-trns-tv, -z-)
> adj. Abbr. intr. or int. or i.
> Designating a verb or verb construction that does not require or cannot
> take a direct object, as snow or sleep.
> Lest you cast too many aspersions upon dictionary.com (rather than my
> misusage of it):
>
> "The dictionaries that appear on Dictionary.com include:
> a.. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
> Edition
> Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
> Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
> b.. Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
> c.. WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
> d.. The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2001 Denis Howe
> e.. Jargon File 4.2.0
> f.. CIA World Factbook (1995)
> g.. Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
> h.. Hitchcock's Bible Names Dictionary
> i.. U.S. Gazetteer, U.S. Census Bureau "
> Point of order, Dan: Are you going to call Parker up and read the
definition
> of intransitive to him, or does that fall upon me?

Nice, but how does this justify all the crap attached to yer msg?
--
And in the gathered crowd, Cornholio gave tacos and burritos
to the starving and flying wedgies to the self-righteous.
He then waited until the turds on lake titicaca
glowed and steamed in the evening twilight before
sacrificing the amphibian on the holy baseball bat.

-Roy Batty-The Book of Bungholio Psalms 121-

So did Joshua (whose Triumph was heard all over the land)


Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Daniel J Stern" <dastern@engin.umich> wrote in message
newsine.SOL.4.44.0307011211470.24927-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
:: Didn't you know Moses drove British cars? He descended the mountain in
his
: triumph...?
:
: DS
: