Anyone had experiences of the famed 160bhp 3.0DT in the Isuzu's?

I know they can suffer seemingly at random and without warning injector
failure and engine run-away & grenading, but how common is it and has anyone
had it happen to them?

There was a recall for modded injectors and turbo's to be fitted to earlier
cars, did this fix the problem or can it still happen? Can I tell from
looking under the bonnet if this has been done?

Any noted failure pattern??

Looking at a 53plate LWB LS with 22k on it at £11.5k...

Cheers

Tim..

"Tim (remove obvious)" <the.NOfarmSPAM@NObtinternetSPAM.com> wrote in
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> Anyone had experiences of the famed 160bhp 3.0DT in the Isuzu's?

> I know they can suffer seemingly at random and without warning injector
> failure and engine run-away & grenading, but how common is it and has
> anyone
> had it happen to them?

Quite a few folks who post on the forums in here have experience of blown
engines.
http://www.itocuk.co.uk/

It might seem as though most 3.0D engines blow up when you read the forums
on the ITOCUK, but I'm pretty sure that isn't so. My guess, though, would
be that maybe 5% of engines that haven't had the fix applied have failed.
This is based purely on my dealers statement that they've had about 10 in
over the years with blown engines (and guessing that they service maybe a
couple of hundred regularly).

> There was a recall for modded injectors and turbo's to be fitted to
> earlier
> cars, did this fix the problem or can it still happen? Can I tell from
> looking under the bonnet if this has been done?

There are one or two folks who post on ITOCUK who claim to have an engine
blow AFTER having had the injector sleeves replaced - but I have no way of
knowing the circumstances under which the fix was done or who it was done
by. At least one poster to ITOCUK is a mechanic at an Isuzu franchise
dealer and says that he has never known an engine blow after having had the
injector sleeves replaced.

> Any noted failure pattern??

You *need* to check with an Isuzu main dealer (or with International Motors)
whether the important "service campaigns" (as they call them) have been done
on the engine. These include replacement of the injector sleeves and
replacement of the turbo. These are done F.O.C. on the International Motors
(Isuzu UK) warranty, irrespective of the age of the vehicle - for cars that
they have imported - i.e. official UK troopers.

When the injector sleeves fail, the oil level in the sump starts to rise. I
am told that if you check the oil level frequently then you can catch it
before it blows. As an aside, my 2000 Citation 3.0D has been fine for 93K
miles without any engine problem at all. The injector sleeve fixes were
done at its 72K service, about 18 months ago.

Cheers
Andrew Kay

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> "Tim (remove obvious)" <the.NOfarmSPAM@NObtinternetSPAM.com> wrote in
> message news:dn01g0$7ic$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > Anyone had experiences of the famed 160bhp 3.0DT in the Isuzu's?
>
> > I know they can suffer seemingly at random and without warning injector
> > failure and engine run-away & grenading, but how common is it and has
> > anyone
> > had it happen to them?
>
> Quite a few folks who post on the forums in here have experience of blown
> engines.
> http://www.itocuk.co.uk/
>
> It might seem as though most 3.0D engines blow up when you read the forums
> on the ITOCUK, but I'm pretty sure that isn't so. My guess, though,
would
> be that maybe 5% of engines that haven't had the fix applied have failed.
> This is based purely on my dealers statement that they've had about 10 in
> over the years with blown engines (and guessing that they service maybe a
> couple of hundred regularly).
>
> > There was a recall for modded injectors and turbo's to be fitted to
> > earlier
> > cars, did this fix the problem or can it still happen? Can I tell from
> > looking under the bonnet if this has been done?
>
> There are one or two folks who post on ITOCUK who claim to have an engine
> blow AFTER having had the injector sleeves replaced - but I have no way of
> knowing the circumstances under which the fix was done or who it was done
> by. At least one poster to ITOCUK is a mechanic at an Isuzu franchise
> dealer and says that he has never known an engine blow after having had
the
> injector sleeves replaced.
>
> > Any noted failure pattern??
>
> You *need* to check with an Isuzu main dealer (or with International
Motors)
> whether the important "service campaigns" (as they call them) have been
done
> on the engine. These include replacement of the injector sleeves and
> replacement of the turbo. These are done F.O.C. on the International
Motors
> (Isuzu UK) warranty, irrespective of the age of the vehicle - for cars
that
> they have imported - i.e. official UK troopers.
>
> When the injector sleeves fail, the oil level in the sump starts to rise.
I
> am told that if you check the oil level frequently then you can catch it
> before it blows. As an aside, my 2000 Citation 3.0D has been fine for
93K
> miles without any engine problem at all. The injector sleeve fixes were
> done at its 72K service, about 18 months ago.
>

Many many thanks for this sound information!

Tim..