The O-ring seal is a bit ‘belt and braces’ because the lead screw has a lip seal which should prevent any fluid escaping. So, you may need to have a look at this seal too.

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New Venture Gear was an American company, so I don’t know if the O-ring would be metric or imperial.

The spigot diameter on the shift motor is Ø44.8mm and the machined recess for the O-ring in the casing is Ø49.1mm

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Clearly, it’s difficult to measure a ‘used’ O-ring, but my guess would be that either

BS 1806 No. 132 (Ø2.62mm x Ø44.12mm x Ø49.36mm)
or
BS 4518 No. 0446-24 (Ø2.4mm x Ø44.6mm x Ø49.4mm)

would do the job.

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You’re welcome to have my used O-ring, if you want it.

Phil

P.S. Please stop calling the shift motor a solenoid ☺️
 
The O-ring seal is a bit ‘belt and braces’ because the lead screw has a lip seal which should prevent any fluid escaping. So, you may need to have a look at this seal too.

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New Venture Gear was an American company, so I don’t know if the O-ring would be metric or imperial.

The spigot diameter on the shift motor is Ø44.8mm and the machined recess for the O-ring in the casing is Ø49.1mm

74ab6cfd-bfb3-469b-8134-885666edb0ed.jpg


172ad50d-dfad-4cd6-b519-93d59143d1f1.jpg


Clearly, it’s difficult to measure a ‘used’ O-ring, but my guess would be that either

BS 1806 No. 132 (Ø2.62mm x Ø44.12mm x Ø49.36mm)
or
BS 4518 No. 0446-24 (Ø2.4mm x Ø44.6mm x Ø49.4mm)

would do the job.

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You’re welcome to have my used O-ring, if you want it.

Phil

P.S. Please stop calling the shift motor a solenoid ☺️

Phil,

Thank you for responding, yes I would definitely appreciate your used O-ring.

The only reason that I called it a solenoid is because when I searched for the part online that specific name came up a lot.

I found one on eBay and they wanted £1,300 for it, but they called it an actuator motor so I should have known better (see image).

I am busy now so I have not looked through your comments in detail yet.

I will try and make sense of them and look for the parts online.

I assume from your response that there is no gasket and the rubber seals are the only transfer case fluid retaining barrier.

That is important information, thank you.

Maximus.
 

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The O-ring seal is a bit ‘belt and braces’ because the lead screw has a lip seal which should prevent any fluid escaping. So, you may need to have a look at this seal too.

ef20d752-6b28-45c6-80dc-677c49869ba0.jpg


b8721e00-6486-4776-bf65-50f91642de14.jpg


New Venture Gear was an American company, so I don’t know if the O-ring would be metric or imperial.

The spigot diameter on the shift motor is Ø44.8mm and the machined recess for the O-ring in the casing is Ø49.1mm

74ab6cfd-bfb3-469b-8134-885666edb0ed.jpg


172ad50d-dfad-4cd6-b519-93d59143d1f1.jpg


Clearly, it’s difficult to measure a ‘used’ O-ring, but my guess would be that either

BS 1806 No. 132 (Ø2.62mm x Ø44.12mm x Ø49.36mm)
or
BS 4518 No. 0446-24 (Ø2.4mm x Ø44.6mm x Ø49.4mm)

would do the job.

3f162cf8-5c35-44a0-b1ee-dc0550ccf8d0.jpg


You’re welcome to have my used O-ring, if you want it.

Phil

P.S. Please stop calling the shift motor a solenoid ☺️
I assume that this image is the lip seal, which appears to be corrupted in your example.

I assume that there is no way to buy this from anyone, unless you can suggest a supplier?

I found possible o-ring suppliers for the sizes that you mentioned, but I will have to contact them and see if they have any available.
 

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I think that many users never select low range during their entire period of ownership, so the lip seal, which is designed as a rotating seal, ends up as a static seal. (The same reasoning also applies to the rotary potentiometer in the shift motor which is notorious for going faulty, potentially due to lack of use). The seal therefore takes on a permanent set.

The lip seal housing diameter is 25.38mm (suspiciously close to 1”) and the lead screw journal diameter is 19.04mm (suspiciously close to 0.75”). I think, therefore, we’re looking at an Imperial size. The width measures at 5.8mm, so maybe ¾” x 1” x ¼”. The only markings that I can see on the seal are FN and 48.

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Phil
 
I think that many users never select low range during their entire period of ownership, so the lip seal, which is designed as a rotating seal, ends up as a static seal. (The same reasoning also applies to the rotary potentiometer in the shift motor which is notorious for going faulty, potentially due to lack of use). The seal therefore takes on a permanent set.

The lip seal housing diameter is 25.38mm (suspiciously close to 1”) and the lead screw journal diameter is 19.04mm (suspiciously close to 0.75”). I think, therefore, we’re looking at an Imperial size. The width measures at 5.8mm, so maybe ¾” x 1” x ¼”. The only markings that I can see on the seal are FN and 48.

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Phil
Thank you for the excellent photo and the precise measurements.

Last night I was reading about the problems with the potentiometer that you and others have been trying to solve for several years.

I stumbled across your posts while looking for solutions to my seal and O-ring problem.

I took screenshots of the relevant information on how to fix it, in case I have this problem with my own potentiometer in the future.

I have contacted multiple suppliers regarding the seals but so far it appears that I would have to buy the actuator for maybe £350.

Although the classic Range Rover website said £3,500 for the unit, but did specify it comes with seals (see attached image).

Given that just a drip is coming out at the moment, I don't want to spend that much money for a new actuator.

My Google searches only revealed seals for the front and back of the NV225, nothing for the actuator.

I have not yet heard back from the one O-ring supplier that I contacted.

I even contacted the company that the New Venture corporation was absorbed into but they have not contacted me back.

Armed with your information about the seal I will contact generic seal suppliers in England in the next few days.

Is it possible to get a photograph of the other side of the seal?

If not that is fine, I'm just wondering if that second photo would help someone find me a suitable generic replacement seal.
 

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The O-ring seal is a bit ‘belt and braces’ because the lead screw has a lip seal which should prevent any fluid escaping. So, you may need to have a look at this seal too.

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Actually, having given this some more thought, I’m talking rubbish. You can see that the lip seal is installed into the shift motor the ‘wrong way round’ i.e. the front of the seal first, because it’s there to prevent the transfer box fluid tracking into the shift motor, not to prevent the fluid leaking out of the casing.

The O-ring prevents the fluid reaching the outside world. It’s the O-ring that you need to concentrate on (unless, of course, the shift motor is filling up with fluid). Sorry for the misleading information.

Phil
 
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Actually, having given this some more thought, I’m talking rubbish. You can see that the lip seal is installed into the shift motor the ‘wrong way round’ i.e. the front of the seal first, because it’s there to prevent the transfer box fluid tracking into the shift motor, not to prevent the fluid leaking out of the casing.

The O-ring prevents the fluid reaching the outside world. It’s the O-ring that you need to concentrate on (unless, of course, the shift motor is filling up with fluid). Sorry for the misleading information.

Phil
No apologies necessary, you have now (and in the past) been a gentleman and an amazing source of information, to myself and to many other people over many years.

In the year that I've had my L322 I have read many forums online to solve both small and large problems on my car.

Many times your posts have appeared in the information I was searching, going back to posts from many years ago.

You have always given people the information that you knew, that was only specific to their problem, without forcing opinions on them.

And you have many times sent people items that they needed to fix their problems!

After reading your comment here I realized that I should have also come to the same conclusion, because it is quite obvious.

It may be that the seal on my actuator motor is perfect and not need replacing.

Given some of the ridiculous things that the previous owner of the car (who had it for 20 years) did, it may be that there is no O-ring there at all.

For example he removed the gearbox sump then used totally different bolts without the crimp washers, that were too long and were unable to be fully tightened because they hit the end of the holes in the housing that they were being tightened into (25mm vs 22mm).

Another example, I had a problem with my suspension and I found out that the rear ride sensor were both broken on the mechanical arms, and he had used cable ties at the elbow pivot to try to reconnect the mechanical arms.

There are many other examples of this type of bad repair or making unnecessary changes.

I figure if I'm going to put my car up on ramps on the street outside my house, go under it on my shop trolly, drain the transfer case, pull off the actuator, resolve the leak, put it back on, and fill up my transfer case again, I might as well have as many parts ready as I can.

I have not yet used the low range gear so I do not know if the actuator works, but I have not seen any errors from the actuator, on my OBD reader or on the instrument cluster, so it is unlikely that the actuator is full of oil.

Given how difficult it may be to get the seal, versus getting the O-ring, and based on your logical analysis of the purpose of the seal, it makes sense for me to order an O-ring, take off the actuator and see what I discover.

I doubt that I would damage the seal in this process, based on photo that I have seen of the actuator and how it fits with the transfer case, so I'm happy to proceed this way.

If I have any problems finding an O-ring I will let you know but for now I think you should keep the one that you have just in case.

I will let you know how it goes and take some picture and post them here.

Thank you again for your help.
 
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Actually, having given this some more thought, I’m talking rubbish. You can see that the lip seal is installed into the shift motor the ‘wrong way round’ i.e. the front of the seal first, because it’s there to prevent the transfer box fluid tracking into the shift motor, not to prevent the fluid leaking out of the casing.

The O-ring prevents the fluid reaching the outside world. It’s the O-ring that you need to concentrate on (unless, of course, the shift motor is filling up with fluid). Sorry for the misleading information.

Phil

I found the o-rings on simplybearings.co.uk who have a simple page where you put in all of the dimensions and find the product.

I ordered both of the o-rings that you suggested, getting five of each o-ring because it was only a few pence more than getting two of each.

If you want me to send you the leftover o-rings let me know and I'll post them to you.
 

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FNL is flanged housing designation from SKF. TFL is the size of the double lip seal that goes in it.

Little bit confused with the lettering/number on the seal, but It may be a place to start and ring an SKF place.




Dont know why I bother, but I did.

J
 
FNL is flanged housing designation from SKF. TFL is the size of the double lip seal that goes in it.

Little bit confused with the lettering/number on the seal, but It may be a place to start and ring an SKF place.




Dont know why I bother, but I did.

J
You bothered because this is the right thing to do, share the information that you have with people that are looking for solutions.

I have found an SKF distributor near me and I will email them and see if they can help.

Thank you for your effort.
 

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