Winch for a Def 110

Am getting a Ramsey RP8000 8000pound winch 2nd hand as the previous owner used it for a month and is no more using it. Will this be enough for my 110.

Is it better to go in for a Warn 9.5CTI new or use this Ramsey winch?

Ramsey are very good industrial winches, and being hydraulic it has a 100% duty cycle so will produce max pull all the time whereas electric winches can drop off.
So 8000lb hydraulic yes

Are you saying the 8000Lbs is not a single line on the spool limit ?

If so thats awesome as single line 9500 lbs winch will be 1/2 that on the second line on the spool and i reckon most folk will winch with 2 or 3 lines on the spool.

ER1C said:

Are you saying the 8000Lbs is not a single line on the spool limit ?

If so thats awesome as single line 9500 lbs winch will be 1/2 that on the second line on the spool and i reckon most folk will winch with 2 or 3 lines on the spool.

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Most peeps will winch on a single line pull annorl. Snatch blocks and weight calculations just don't even cross their minds

Guys this is all going over my head. All I know is that it is a Ramsey RP8000 electric winch and it has a single metal cable. My options are either this or a Warn 9.5Cti or a Powerplant HD.

Prith said:

Guys this is all going over my head. All I know is that it is a Ramsey RP8000 electric winch and it has a single metal cable. My options are either this or a Warn 9.5Cti or a Powerplant HD.

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Imagine riding a bike.

When you change gear, you move the chain up or down a cog size, thus changing your gearing.

The winch line rating changes according to how many layers of cable are left on the drum.

By using a pulley and 'doubling up' the cable (running it from the winch, to the stuck vehicle or anchor point where it goes through a pulley, and then back to the winch vehucle again) you effectively multiply the capability of the winch by 2 but at the same time halve the speed the winched vehicle will move at. (In reality you lose approx 10% of the rated pull every time you run the cable back). For a really stubbornly bogged vehicle you could use 3 pulleys and 4 runs of cable to double the rating again.





A common thing is for people to hook 2 winches to a bogged vehicle and are mistaken into thinking that each winch will be doing 50% of the work.

Even if the winches are exactly matched the chances are the ratios will probably be more like 65%/35%.

In order to use 2 winches and pull equally a system containing a floating pulley must be used.

You totally miss what I was getting at.. I am aware more lines is better and use snatch blocks etc but for electric winches.

"For every successive wrap of cable on the drum the winch's torque decreases"

Usually there will be a fair few wraps on the drum on any pull. The way I read the post initially was that the hydraulic one didnt suffer from the decrease in torque/pull... Perhaps I misread it.

ratty said:

Imagine riding a bike.

When you change gear, you move the chain up or down a cog size, thus changing your gearing.

The winch line rating changes according to how many layers of cable are left on the drum.

By using a pulley and 'doubling up' the cable (running it from the winch, to the stuck vehicle or anchor point where it goes through a pulley, and then back to the winch vehucle again) you effectively multiply the capability of the winch by 2 but at the same time halve the speed the winched vehicle will move at. (In reality you lose approx 10% of the rated pull every time you run the cable back). For a really stubbornly bogged vehicle you could use 3 pulleys and 4 runs of cable to double the rating again.

A common thing is for people to hook 2 winches to a bogged vehicle and are mistaken into thinking that each winch will be doing 50% of the work.

Even if the winches are exactly matched the chances are the ratios will probably be more like 65%/35%.

In order to use 2 winches and pull equally a system containing a floating pulley must be used.

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ER1C said:

You totally miss what I was getting at.. I am aware more lines is better and use snatch blocks etc but for electric winches.

"For every successive wrap of cable on the drum the winch's torque decreases"

Usually there will be a fair few wraps on the drum on any pull. The way I read the post initially was that the hydraulic one didnt suffer from the decrease in torque/pull... Perhaps I misread it.

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What you quoted was answering Priths question as was denoted by me quoting Prith when I posted it.

A hydraulic winch will suffer a change in torque. The gearing has changed. If it didn't suffer a change the winch wouldn't need to be rated as a tiny hydraulic winch could pull an arctic?

However, any changes in gearing or line rating will effect a electric winch far more than they will a hydraulic winch. If you winch a vehicle with an electric winch you can hear when the motor is and isn't straining. It is unusual to hear a ahydraulic winch strain or change not as load is applied or removed. You will hear the cables straining though.

Thanks for the nfo guys!