TD5 smoking and stinking in traffic.

Hello,
My 2003 TD5 Deepender is now smoking like a Bastard when idling and pulling away. Had a squint in the intercooler hoses and there is a thin coat of fresh oil and it is beginning to pool at low points. Having searched...I'm thinking turbo oil seals, and thinking just how close I am to having the engine run away . CO2 fire extinguisher in the back on stand by.
I have access to an Engineering workshop so would like to have a go at replacing the seals, has anyone had any success doing this? Otherwise its new/recon turbo.
Have already checked/replaced fuel filter, air filter, air mass sensor,
still getting 1 Bar boost pressure, doesn't seem to be down on power and has in the last 2 days become difficult to start.
Cheers,
Mike.

Had something similar.
Check all your vacuum lines.
One of mine leading to the turbo thingy came off and caused her to smoke at idle.

Cheers natas,
Will do,
Mike.

check your ecu for oil in it, if there is oil change your injector loom & clean the ecu out.
hope this helps

Vacuum lines could be a possibility, if you have a split vacuum line the fuel pump tries to compensate with more fuel and causes black smoke (wasted fuel)

Dave90 said:

Vacuum lines could be a possibility, if you have a split vacuum line the fuel pump tries to compensate with more fuel and causes black smoke (wasted fuel)

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Not on a TD5 it dont. There is not an injection pump. Only thing the vacuum does is the brakes and the EGR.

Vacuum lines could be a possibility, if you have a split vacuum line the fuel pump tries to compensate with more fuel and causes black smoke (wasted fuel)

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Not on a TD5 it dont. There is not an injection pump. Only thing the vacuum does is the brakes and the EGR.

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I stand corrected, I've heard you're the man to ask about TD5's If Im honest I didnt read the post properly I thought it was a Tdi :doh:

Wasn't being a smartarse just that the TD5 dont work like most diesels. What you said about vacuum to injection pump is correct for engines with a mechanical injector pump.

Shifty1962 said:

Wasn't being a smartarse just that the TD5 dont work like most diesels. What you said about vacuum to injection pump is correct for engines with a mechanical injector pump.

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Having never looked at them closely enough I couldn't say I know anything about them, would like to know them a bit more though, they seem to be more sophisticated and a big move ahead compared to the old 200/300 lumps

mikegsxr said:

Hello,
My 2003 TD5 Deepender is now smoking like a Bastard when idling and pulling away.

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Hmm. Camels or Reds?

S

I had a ford explorer once,I know,I know, anyway just before the engine give up,it stank like rotton eggs, was told it was the catylitic con. not working proper. Theres every chance that this is BS.

Thanks for all the replies, finally got my arse in gear and checked the loom for oil....it is clean. Took a deep breath and I have now dropped the turbo off for a good coat of looking at. There is a lot of oil in the inlet side, I'll post some pics in a bit when I've tidied up and washed more than me typing finger. I am nearly £400 + vat convinced but what I can't get me head round is that I've owned me Fender from new and at 77,000 miles the tyres have out lasted the turbo, and in all honesty it's lead a poofs life (compared to my old hybrid). Gets new oils and filters regular etc etc. Is 77K and 9 years reasonable for the turbo (seals) life?
Anyone rebuilt their turbo at home? I am having trouble sourcing a kit so any leads greatfully recieved.
Cheers,
Mike.

Some pics attached,,,I hope.

I have been told that 80k is average for the mass market turbo before it starts to fail. However I've had them last a lot longer but also a few that did not. There are too many variables to be specific.

I've never rebuilt one myself but I know a few people that have with good results. I've even seen one built from two faulty turbos by a bush mechanic in Tanzania that went on to cover 2500 hard African bush miles with no problems.

mikegsxr said:

I am having trouble sourcing a kit so any leads greatfully recieved.
Cheers,
Mike.

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Thanks for the advice all,
Found lots of oil in the inlet manifold when I finally got it off, will need to clean it out along with the intercooler and hoses before I fit my spanking new turbo tomorrow. Found a new Garrett GT20 for £400 inc vat at a turbo specialist in Christchurch. Didn't like the look of the kits on Fleabay, and bearing in mind that I am reliably informed that the seals on the GT20 are piston ring like and that when worn will create grooves in the shaft I have erred on the side of expensive caution. Once me wagon lives again I will post some pics of the worn turbo guts then we will see whether a home rebuild is a feasable proposition.
Sunny day of spanner ****ing tomorrow
Mike.

Make sure the vasaline is plentifull !

Ricksdef said:

Make sure the vasaline is plentifull !

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gayest ever. (series 71)

I much prefer ep80 over vaseline, it's the smell

Well, after a big day of spannering just got back from the test drive Its no better, still smoking like a bastard. Checks completed whilst fitting new turbo were
crank case pressurising-no
oil return from turbo-clear and free to flow
air filter clean and new- ok
oil in loom-no
air mass sensor-ok
oil leaking out of new turbo-not checked yet (its dark)
pressure/temp sensor in inlet manifold-not checked
Please feel free to chip in with stuff i've missed.
Oil actually dripped out of the inlet manifold after removing it I can't believe this is normal.
Any good ideas welcome.
Cheers,
Mike.