Re: There's much more than drunk drivers that need to be controlled

That's right, what passes for safety these days is nothing more than
accident survival.

The emphisis needs to return to accident prevention and the enforcement of
lane integrity laws.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:19:25 -0400, "BE" <[email protected]> wrote:

>That's right, what passes for safety these days is nothing more than
>accident survival.
>
>The emphisis needs to return to accident prevention and the enforcement of
>lane integrity laws.
>

ANd we can put that emphisis on just AFTER we get rid of the SPAMMERs
such as the original poster who is just flogging his books.

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:19:25 -0400, "BE" <[email protected]> wrote:

>That's right, what passes for safety these days is nothing more than
>accident survival.
>
>The emphisis needs to return to accident prevention and the enforcement of
>lane integrity laws.
>
Hollywood and Madison Avenue make reckless driving appear sexy.

You pig headed coffin jockeys don't realise that you can never look
sexy in your plastic lined cages.

You'll always look like dupes.
--
zk

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:19:25 -0400, "BE" <[email protected]> wrote:

>That's right, what passes for safety these days is nothing more than
>accident survival.
>
>The emphisis needs to return to accident prevention and the enforcement of
>lane integrity laws.
>

Lane integrity laws.?? HAHAHA. What about the deadly speeders and
drunk drivers, you nitwit??

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:19:25 -0400, "BE" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>That's right, what passes for safety these days is nothing more than
>>accident survival.
>>
>>The emphisis needs to return to accident prevention and the enforcement of
>>lane integrity laws.
>>
>
> Lane integrity laws.?? HAHAHA. What about the deadly speeders and
> drunk drivers, you nitwit??
>

Yeah. Here in Illinois, you're supposed to use a signal when changing
lanes. That's been a law since 1965 and they still don't do it on average
up here.

Or the law about turning your lights on when using your wipers. That's been
a law since 1990.

Or the law about doing more than 20 over the limit is a felony. If that's
so, then 99.999% of the drivers on the TriState Tollway are felons, because
the average speed most of the time is nearer 80 than 55. I've seen some
days when it hit closer to 90, and even the right lane is going 75-80.

Charles of Schaumburg

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:22:51 -0500, "n5hsr" <[email protected]> wrote:


>
>Or the law about doing more than 20 over the limit is a felony. If that's
>so, then 99.999% of the drivers on the TriState Tollway are felons, because
>the average speed most of the time is nearer 80 than 55. I've seen some
>days when it hit closer to 90, and even the right lane is going 75-80.
>
>Charles of Schaumburg
>

I don't believe there is any such law, though i'd love to see it. You
got a link?

On 29 Sep 2006 06:48:10 -0700, "Tim Kreitz" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>
>Any number of studies and stats can be googled that show how in areas
>where highway speed limits are higher, per-capita fatalities are LOWER.
>Germany, Italy, and (until recently) Montana are all good examples,
>just for starters.
>

HAHAHAHA. Don't start in with that nonsense again. The issue was
settled back in 1974 when america went to the 55 and immediately
highway deaths plumetted.

In article <[email protected]>,
Zoot Katz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>You pig headed coffin jockeys don't realise that you can never look
>sexy in your plastic lined cages.

Of course I can't. As long as the passenger does, that's fine
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:55:14 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 29 Sep 2006 06:48:10 -0700, "Tim Kreitz" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Any number of studies and stats can be googled that show how in areas
>>where highway speed limits are higher, per-capita fatalities are LOWER.
>>Germany, Italy, and (until recently) Montana are all good examples,
>>just for starters.
>>
>
>HAHAHAHA. Don't start in with that nonsense again. The issue was
>settled back in 1974 when america went to the 55 and immediately
>highway deaths plumetted.

The safest roads in America are Insterstate highways - they are also
the roads with the highest average speeds.

--
Turby the Turbosurfer

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

>Lane integrity laws.?? HAHAHA. What about the deadly speeders and
>drunk drivers, you nitwit??

Plonk!

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news[email protected]...
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:22:51 -0500, "n5hsr" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Or the law about doing more than 20 over the limit is a felony. If that's
>>so, then 99.999% of the drivers on the TriState Tollway are felons,
>>because
>>the average speed most of the time is nearer 80 than 55. I've seen some
>>days when it hit closer to 90, and even the right lane is going 75-80.
>>
>>Charles of Schaumburg
>>
>
> I don't believe there is any such law, though i'd love to see it. You
> got a link?
>

No, I got that one straight from a State Policeman that is a friend of mine.
No, he wasn't writing me a ticket. . . . .

Charles of Schaumburg

"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> n5hsr wrote:
>>
>> Or the law about doing more than 20 over the limit is a felony. If
>> that's
>> so, then 99.999% of the drivers on the TriState Tollway are felons,
>> because
>> the average speed most of the time is nearer 80 than 55. I've seen some
>> days when it hit closer to 90, and even the right lane is going 75-80.
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>
> If such an Illinois law existed you could be closer to being right than
> wrong. Unfortunately for your hyperbole however, there is no such law.
> I can only guess that you are referring to the "fleeing to elude
> police" statute in which case you should stop quoting the law until you
> actually *read* it.
>
> Try- http://www.law.cornell.edu/states/illinois
>
> Regards,
> Bob Hunt
>

1. Page doesn't link.

2. I have a friend who just happens to be a State Policeman who told me
about it. Either he's lying to me (very doubtful) or he was lied to by his
superiors.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> On 29 Sep 2006 06:48:10 -0700, "Tim Kreitz" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Any number of studies and stats can be googled that show how in areas
>>where highway speed limits are higher, per-capita fatalities are LOWER.
>>Germany, Italy, and (until recently) Montana are all good examples,
>>just for starters.
>>
>
> HAHAHAHA. Don't start in with that nonsense again. The issue was
> settled back in 1974 when america went to the 55 and immediately
> highway deaths plumetted.

But cars are actually much better now than the Detroit Land Yachts most were
driving in 1974. My Corolla from back then could get up to 70. Anything
over that and I'd start shaking parts off. My current Corolla's been up to
95, and it has over 226,000 miles on it, and regularly does 70 with no
strain at all. As a matter of fact if I'm only doing 70, I'm way over in
the slow lane on most tollways now, and someone's riding up my bumper. And
it didn't really save that much gas. And those ridiculous 87 MPH
speedometers. If I wanted a moped, I'd buy one. I buried the needle going
downhill once. American cars may get their best mileage at 35, but the
newer Japanese cars actually are geared to do better at 65-70.

And if you check the accident rates, on the Autobahn with its higher speed,
it's still lower than our 65 MPH Interstates. And they can go 200 MPH
legally on the Autobahn. They have Porches and Mercedes and Ferrarris over
there. And a slower traffic keep right rule.

Charles of Schaumburg

n5hsr wrote:

> > Try- http://www.law.cornell.edu/states/illinois
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob Hunt
> >
>
> 1. Page doesn't link.
>
> 2. I have a friend who just happens to be a State Policeman who told me
> about it. Either he's lying to me (very doubtful) or he was lied to by his
> superiors.
>

Google it or try a cut and paste to that site because your statement
has (20 MPH+ over the speed limit is a felony) absolutely no basis in
Illinois law.

At least two more possibilities exist BTW.

3. Your friend misunderstands the law (very doubtful because even if he
did, the Assistant State's Attorney would set him straight the very
first time he called in to felony review for approval of charges on a
simple speeder) or;
4. You misunderstood him.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

In article <[email protected]>,
n5hsr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> n5hsr wrote:
>>>
>>> Or the law about doing more than 20 over the limit is a felony. If
>>> that's
>>> so, then 99.999% of the drivers on the TriState Tollway are felons,
>>> because
>>> the average speed most of the time is nearer 80 than 55. I've seen some
>>> days when it hit closer to 90, and even the right lane is going 75-80.
>>>
>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>
>> If such an Illinois law existed you could be closer to being right than
>> wrong. Unfortunately for your hyperbole however, there is no such law.
>> I can only guess that you are referring to the "fleeing to elude
>> police" statute in which case you should stop quoting the law until you
>> actually *read* it.
>>
>> Try- http://www.law.cornell.edu/states/illinois
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Hunt
>>
>
>1. Page doesn't link.
>
>2. I have a friend who just happens to be a State Policeman who told me
>about it. Either he's lying to me (very doubtful) or he was lied to by his
>superiors.

He's a cop, cops lie. His boss is a cop, cops lie. You're a
semi-anonymous Usenet poster repeating a friend-of-a-friend story...

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs.asp

65 ILCS 5/11-601.5 says that doing 40 over is a class A misdemeanor.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

"Zoot Katz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:19:25 -0400, "BE" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>That's right, what passes for safety these days is nothing more than
>>accident survival.
>>
>>The emphisis needs to return to accident prevention and the enforcement of
>>lane integrity laws.
>>
> Hollywood and Madison Avenue make reckless driving appear sexy.
>
> You pig headed coffin jockeys don't realise that you can never look
> sexy in your plastic lined cages.
>
> You'll always look like dupes.

I hate to say it, but after a 20-mile bike ride, I don't exactly look fresh
as a daisy. Not that there's anything wrong with that... I just wouldn't
want to go to a nice restaurant by bike 20 miles away. I'll look much
better when arriving by car.

brink

brink wrote:
> > You pig headed coffin jockeys don't realise that you can never look
> > sexy in your plastic lined cages.
> >
> > You'll always look like dupes.
>
> I hate to say it, but after a 20-mile bike ride, I don't exactly look fresh
> as a daisy. Not that there's anything wrong with that... I just wouldn't
> want to go to a nice restaurant by bike 20 miles away. I'll look much
> better when arriving by car.

The bottom line is that people have options to get around in safety,
and that's hardly the case. The Hummer and F-350 are above the car, and
they all are above the motorcycle and bicycle. The Big Fish eats the
Little Fish...

Plot Summary for
Life (2000)
In life, the big fish eats the little fish, and the bigger fish eats
the big fish. To illustrate this basic truth, thirty-three animators
each introduce a character who eats the one previously introduced and
is eaten by the next animator's creation. It happens on land and at
sea, with humans, animals real and imaginary, aliens, a few plants, and
a robot. They are chomped whole, sliced, smashed, flattened, inhaled
through straws, eaten from the inside out and the backside forward.
Sometimes the little guy wins; nothing and no one is invincible. By the
end, we've come full circle.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265283/plotsummary

"brink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Zoot Katz" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:19:25 -0400, "BE"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>That's right, what passes for safety these days
>>>is nothing more than
>>>accident survival.
>>>
>>>The emphisis needs to return to accident
>>>prevention and the enforcement of
>>>lane integrity laws.
>>>
>> Hollywood and Madison Avenue make reckless
>> driving appear sexy.
>>
>> You pig headed coffin jockeys don't realise
>> that you can never look
>> sexy in your plastic lined cages.
>>
>> You'll always look like dupes.
>
> I hate to say it, but after a 20-mile bike ride,
> I don't exactly look fresh as a daisy. Not that
> there's anything wrong with that... I just
> wouldn't want to go to a nice restaurant by bike
> 20 miles away. I'll look much better when
> arriving by car.
>
> brink


Oh bovine excrement...women subconsciously find it
sexy. Not their faulty mind ewe, it's a biological
thing...evolutionary that is.