Ive bought this disco today !! your thoughts please

[polsta]

around 100quid a side i think

thats not too bad is it, if i had it a year and that needed for next mot ? concidering interior etc is all good and no real obvious rust issues and its mechanicly sound

is it possible the rust could be worse than just cills ? even tho everythign looked fine ?

im in havant/portsmouth , hampshire !!

is anyone local ???


with regards to the mot/vosa standard, my mates an mot tester, its crap hes really busy n cant do till sunday,coz too dark after work...

but, if i did buy it, il definatly get him to check it over take it to his garage and he can do a dummy mot on it , and tell me if theyve done it properly to standard ot not, or if theres any fails....if need be id just call vosa n tell them that /take it back n say look....

also i have warranty ? what would that cover exactly, he said all parts and labour , what other grounds would i have for it ?

 

[disco2shaun]

personally waranty is a load of crap, 4 year ago the mrs got a pug 307 hdi from dealers. paid £360 for 3 years warranty. 2 week later it started leaking oil from sump plug so we took it back and they said sump lug is cross threaded, well i said you was last people to service it 2 week ago, they said no its not under warranty and billed me £60 for looking at it, i had to take sump off and re-tap it. set of ****s

 

[polsta]

personally waranty is a load of crap, 4 year ago the mrs got a pug 307 hdi from dealers. paid £360 for 3 years warranty. 2 week later it started leaking oil from sump plug so we took it back and they said sump lug is cross threaded, well i said you was last people to service it 2 week ago, they said no its not under warranty and billed me £60 for looking at it, i had to take sump off and re-tap it. set of ****s

takes the pssss !!!

howver..had the gearbox gone/engine blown/electrical fault arrisen...then that would be covered wouldnt it ?

put it this way...a 3 month warranty, is better than no warranty from ebay/an individual isnt it ?

 

[disco2shaun]

yeah i guess

 

[polsta]

so there no one local then ?

or should i post in a different section n appeal if there is anyone ???

 

[alex8882]

To be honest as with any used car/van/4x4, buyer beware springs to mind. Got my 94 300tdi 14 months ago. Looked mint underneath, a week later one of the rear trailing bracket sheared off. i to had a rusty arch, 12 months later needed the sill rear arch, and body mount replaced. In short if your unsure walk away. This is my first landie, shes been a bitch, but loads of good advice from here, and handy with a spanner, and shes still alive. Good luck either ways matey anyway

 

[polsta]

cheers mate, im not unsure,im not sure sure...i want to be sure mind, but with any second hand car for 500-10k how can you be 100% sure , theres always that element

and ,,,is any/every sub 2k disco, gonna have an issue of some sort ? no history ? crap this crap that, is one going to be 1000% perfect in every way ?

a mate of mine bought a range rover recently for 4k, week later some big electrical fault ,and lost 1k on it ....i dont know the details mind, but he wasnt happy

i justd early want a "nice purchase" and feel good factor for my 2k ,and cant waste it or throw it away

 

[polsta]

right a mates come good, thank god !!!!

hes not a 4x4 expert, but hes a lot older and wiser than me and a car breaker and had a lot of cars etc n done restoration projects, hes gonna take me and have a good loook !!!

is there a real check list kinda thing to carry out ??

if need be il write it down n go though it all ,i cant waste this money,i want to be happy and feel ive worked hard to earn that money and a nice criimbo present,and drive up the road like king of the road hahaha with all the mod con comforts

 

[SHORT ROUND]

whats the rush to buy this particular disco mate. would'nt it be better to wait get someone to look it over first. and if you do walk away are you sure you get your deposit back, because i put a deposit down on a disco with a dealer whilst waiting for work to be done (yeah right fooking c*nts) and was told deposit was refundable but the day came to pick the motor up and i was'nt happy with the standard of the work + mot they supplied. i was basically told to fook off as i did'nt have it in writing then i would'nt be getting my monies. (revenge will be mine, what goes around, comes around) so my advice is try and get your deposit back or see if they will hold on to it for that bit longer until you can get it looked over properly. i was stung for £200 deposit :doh: and i would hate for someone else to fall prey to scum like it again. just be patient buddy

 

[thebiglad]

cheers mate, im not unsure,im not sure sure...i want to be sure mind, but with any second hand car for 500-10k how can you be 100% sure , theres always that element

and ,,,is any/every sub 2k disco, gonna have an issue of some sort ? no history ? crap this crap that, is one going to be 1000% perfect in every way ?

a mate of mine bought a range rover recently for 4k, week later some big electrical fault ,and lost 1k on it ....i dont know the details mind, but he wasnt happy

i justd early want a "nice purchase" and feel good factor for my 2k ,and cant waste it or throw it away

Polsta, with the greatest respect to you you are not listening. Disco 1's are bad news for rust, to the extent that good looking cars with nice looking interiors are SCRAPPED.

Sills are structural, if the car needs inner and outer sills on both sides it will set you back £250 in parts alone, plus fitting and paint. So you are into at least £600.

There is a better than even chance that the A and B posts bottoms will need replacing - again structural - parts about £100 plus fitting. Done at the same time as sills.

Boot floor plus crossmember supports, at least £100 for parts plus fitting and paint - I was quoted 600 euros for the work.

Rear body crossmember and body mounts - parts about £180 plus fitting and paint.

Dodgy mot's are no surprise at all, when selling older second-hand cars. I bought one last year with a new mot - shagged tyres, no horn, rot on the B post bottom etc etc etc.



Please for your own sake, do not underestimate the costs of rust rectification - it could cost you a packet.


Superficial rust is not a great problem. Crispy sounding sills means if you press just a little harder there will be holes.


Are you getting the picture yet?

 

[polsta]

biglad....

with all due respect and i dont mean to sound like a tit and i appriciate the advice...but how can you just see that arch needs doing...which is a common fault on them is it not ? as being a total rust bucket needing all that ??? and the other side looked ok, and reel off all that..without actualy seeing anything ????

i know rust,granted i dont know anything abut discos, but had a good look around and under it, and its hardly a rust bucket

why can you instead as asked say .giving me real helpful advice in what to look for exactly,which is what im after here....

right ...

check this..

have a look here,and there,and at this,and that ..check for this, that that...

then if all good,y our on to a winner as it sounds and looks nice, if it isnt...walk away


instead of totaly writing it off like its 2k down the drain from that pic of 1 arch ???

give me a break man im after some help here so i dont waste my cash...your not being very helpful in what i can look for tomorrow in preventing me wasting money !!!

because it might be ok and a nice purchase,may it not ??? and not bad, or it might be bad,..thats what im trying to establish, please all im asking is for help and advice on how i can spot that tomorrow and not waste my money

if its a wrongen i can go back and look further at the jap one !!

 

[nathan5346]

biglad....

with all due respect and i dont mean to sound like a tit and i appriciate the advice...but how can you just see that arch needs doing...which is a common fault on them is it not ? as being a total rust bucket needing all that ??? and the other side looked ok, and reel off all that..without actualy seeing anything ????

i know rust,granted i dont know anything abut discos, but had a good look around and under it, and its hardly a rust bucket

why can you instead as asked say .giving me real helpful advice in what to look for exactly,which is what im after here....

right ...

check this..

have a look here,and there,and at this,and that ..check for this, that that...

then if all good,y our on to a winner as it sounds and looks nice, if it isnt...walk away


instead of totaly writing it off like its 2k down the drain from that pic of 1 arch ???

give me a break man im after some help here so i dont waste my cash...your not being very helpful in what i can look for tomorrow in preventing me wasting money !!!

because it might be ok and a nice purchase,may it not ??? and not bad, or it might be bad,..thats what im trying to establish, please all im asking is for help and advice on how i can spot that tomorrow and not waste my money

if its a wrongen i can go back and look further at the jap one !!

You wanted advice and you've got it take it or leave it.

Best advice i can offer? buy in haste and repent at leisure...... 2k is a lot of dosh fer a disco 1

 

[The Mad Hat Man]

I was offered a much better one than that for £700

 

[alex8882]

There also seems to be alot of people out there trying to flog ****e when it comes to d1's i know i bought one lol. If you are handy with a welder, or know somebody who is then its still gonna cost you, but not asmuch. You have been giving some real sound advice, so you should be well prepeared. I really wouldn't let a good polished clean car fool you, as its what lurks underneath it that will hurt you. Also undersealer can hide aload of problems. Things to check:
boot floor
rear cross member
body mount
A&B pillars
inner arches
inner wings
inner and outer sills
play in the drive train
check that difflock and high-low range lever isn't seized
Also all the normal checks brakes,engine and so on.
take your time. Time spent now could well save you money later on

 

[thebiglad]

biglad....

with all due respect and i dont mean to sound like a tit and i appriciate the advice...but how can you just see that arch needs doing...which is a common fault on them is it not ? as being a total rust bucket needing all that ??? and the other side looked ok, and reel off all that..without actualy seeing anything ????

i know rust,granted i dont know anything abut discos, but had a good look around and under it, and its hardly a rust bucket

why can you instead as asked say .giving me real helpful advice in what to look for exactly,which is what im after here....

right ...

check this..

have a look here,and there,and at this,and that ..check for this, that that...

then if all good,y our on to a winner as it sounds and looks nice, if it isnt...walk away


instead of totaly writing it off like its 2k down the drain from that pic of 1 arch ???

give me a break man im after some help here so i dont waste my cash...your not being very helpful in what i can look for tomorrow in preventing me wasting money !!!

because it might be ok and a nice purchase,may it not ??? and not bad, or it might be bad,..thats what im trying to establish, please all im asking is for help and advice on how i can spot that tomorrow and not waste my money

if its a wrongen i can go back and look further at the jap one !!

I DID NOT SAY THAT YOUR CAR HAD ALL THOSE PROBLEMS - JUST THAT THOSE PROBLEMS OCCUR ON OLD TDi'S AND THEY COST LOTS TO REPLACE.

You've been given advice you just won't take it, so good luck and goodbye.

 

[polsta]

whats the rush to buy this particular disco mate. would'nt it be better to wait get someone to look it over first. and if you do walk away are you sure you get your deposit back, because i put a deposit down on a disco with a dealer whilst waiting for work to be done (yeah right fooking c*nts) and was told deposit was refundable but the day came to pick the motor up and i was'nt happy with the standard of the work + mot they supplied. i was basically told to fook off as i did'nt have it in writing then i would'nt be getting my monies. (revenge will be mine, what goes around, comes around) so my advice is try and get your deposit back or see if they will hold on to it for that bit longer until you can get it looked over properly. i was stung for £200 deposit :doh: and i would hate for someone else to fall prey to scum like it again. just be patient buddy

see what your saying mate, ive been looking around for ages now, and thoight that arch aside shed a nice one , looked at various 4x4s n read about a lot n looked at god knows how many ebay and internet ads n sold ones etc, and this looked good , not mnay local ish ones are for sale or have been ,plus i realy want to get my bmw off the road and not have it in the ice n snow n salt etc, and i get out of work at 3am freezzing my tits off,and want some nice comfort !!

i wouldnt loose the £100 , but id rather loose it than waste 1900 and like you say,...

i truly appriciate the advice !!! as said il be taking whatever purchase i make to my mtes place for him to mot it, n see if it passes or fails etc...il go back with it , il phone vosa and strading standards etc should snythign like that happen where how i deem it life may be put at risk with an mot issue


im just a bit baffled how it seeems to be written off by people from this pic of a common fault arch problem , but thats fair enough i appriciate that...as i know nothing about them of course ,just a bit doom n gloom and no posetivity for me on here it seems ???

 

[alex8882]

Welcome to world of disco's lol. All jokes aside i think that the above posters are trying to save you money. These guys have all been there done that, and probably got there fingers burnt.

 

[SHORT ROUND]

as said by previous members be very careful buddy the disco's have a bad habit of hiding their rust, i bought mine approx 3 years ago now and still finding rust in places but its been passing an mot every year. an mot means it was good and working on the day of the test not all year round buddy and not everything is covered in the mot, alot of grey area's in the mot test which dealers seem to find and take advantage of to save them some money. and at the end of the day looks and fancy gadgets ar'nt always a good thing. and looking at your profile being down in portsmouth,there is the salt air to consider. my neighbour bought a 200tdi for the engine from down near the coast and there was more rust than there was body panels left i think it was only the mud holding it together. which is why i think alot of the other members are trying to warn you off this one. if that amount of rust is visible god only knows what lurks beneath all those plastic panels mate.

 

[nathan5346]

I was offered a much better one than that for £700

That sold fer £920

 

[polsta]

You wanted advice and you've got it take it or leave it.

Best advice i can offer? buy in haste and repent at leisure...... 2k is a lot of dosh fer a disco 1

i appriciate the advice givem truly..thats why i posted this and why im sat here all eve soaking it up !!!

but i did ask what exact can i check advice,and it seems to of been instantly labeled a total ****ter and i dont quite understand how or why exactly ? thats all im a bit boggled on,and seems all doom and gloom and negativity for me , but ....i wont buy in haste, ive looked at it twice and at others and other 4x4s , and i wont hand over the ££ if theres dbout in my mind , il eitgher be sure by time ive looked it over tomorrow or il of walked away either with my 100, or without it and a car dealer going to be sorry for that....