flookyk

flookyk

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having just been on here for a couple of months or so, after buying a P38 DSE, one thing that is very obvious is the amount of visits and posts on here compared to some forums for other makes of 4x4, some of which seem dead for weeks or months at a time.

Is this because it is so friendly on here and great chat or because our Landies keeps bloody breaking down so often and we need help and advice, both of the above or some other reason?

PS I have picked up some great tips and advice myself already of here, so thanks all for that.
 
flookyk said:
having just been on here for a couple of months or so, after buying a P38 DSE, one thing that is very obvious is the amount of visits and posts on here compared to some forums for other makes of 4x4, some of which seem dead for weeks or months at a time.

Is this because it is so friendly on here and great chat or because our Landies keeps bloody breaking down so often and we need help and advice, both of the above or some other reason?

PS I have picked up some great tips and advice myself already of here, so thanks all for that.
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All of the above.
 
flookyk said:
having just been on here for a couple of months or so, after buying a P38 DSE, one thing that is very obvious is the amount of visits and posts on here compared to some forums for other makes of 4x4, some of which seem dead for weeks or months at a time.

Is this because it is so friendly on here and great chat or because our Landies keeps bloody breaking down so often and we need help and advice, both of the above or some other reason?

PS I have picked up some great tips and advice myself already of here, so thanks all for that.
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None of the above.








We enjoy a good disagreement as well.
 
flookyk said:
... Is this because it is so friendly on here and great chat or because our Landies keeps bloody breaking down so often and we need help and advice, both of the above or some other reason?...
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What gave you the impression that we are all friendly?? :eek:

Some of our Landies don't break down because we look after them, and then take the **** out of those who don't, or have bought one to fix after someone else has managed to fookit up! :clap2:

I'm going back on me meds now, and will probably return as the grumpy old git that I am normally! :monitor_punch:
 
One thing I've found with internet fora, regardless of the subject is that they have to be quite eclectic regardless of the main topic. By covering a wide range of issues e.g. different models/usage/subjects in order to attract interest in the first place.

They then have to have a very tolerant membership and set of moderators. LZ may seem to have a crusty, intolerant bunch of members at times who don't suffer fools, but at its heart there are a very genuine bunch of people who are generous with both their knowledge and time.

Thirdly, the interest base can't be too specific. There are Land Rover forums out there which concentrate on particular models/4x4 activity/interest. But unless you want to know why the 9 rivets on the rear door quarter panel on a 110 TD5 are painted on the nearside, but unpainted on the offside, they're not much use on a daily basis.

Fourthly - humour. Unless the atmosphere within the forum has the facility for members to laugh at itself, to chide others, and occasionally go OTT, you might as well use Wikipedia for your answers.

Fifthly. The buzz. I can't put my finger on this, but there are many Land Rover forums out there. Some purport to be official clubs/forum but if the memberships are dismissive of others (apart from Gaylanders of course), because your vehicle has coil and not cart springs, even though their membership criteria states otherwise, then people will go away.

Sixthly. An easy to understand lay out. when I first got interested in Land Rovers for the second time in my life (about 6 years ago) I joined a number of Land Rover forums (well the free ones). At that time there were 2 forums which were head and shoulders above the others in terms of interest and popularity. LZ was one. The other equally popular one went through a change of layout and involvement of its very influential sponsor/site owner. Despite many protests about the changes, about difficulty in finding items, the site stuck with the new format. Today that forum is but a shadow of its predecessor and no longer gives LZ a run for its money.

Put all those 6 factors together and you have a chance of success because what a forum needs most is high volumes of postings. After all, if I have an MOT on Saturday and want to know how to adjust the parking brake (which I don't by the way) then where do I ask the question? On the Land Rover Series IIa rivet counters and aligned screwheads forum, (membership 175, all of whom will have had their cocoa by 9.00 pm) or LZ (membership n'000s). Both will probably give me the right answer, but the former will take 15 days, LZ will deliver in 15 minutes (or 15 nanoseconds if James Martin is online and 30 nanoseconds for a different reply from Wammers :D.

I suppose finally you can't have a good forum without mentioning the tireless contribution of moderators. Some forums have moderators who give up their time selflessly, rule with a sense of benign dictatorship, and are only too willing to roll up their sleeves not being afraid of hard work. (not always necessary for success though - look at LZ).:D:D
 
There's always stuff going on. Every time I look someone else has made a contribution. I don't write as much as I read because I usually look at Landyzone whilst I'm eating and my hands aren't free to type, but there's so much energy expended by so many people who put not only Land Rover stuff, but there whole lives on here, so it's a lot more fun than watching some stilted, poorly-scripted and woodenly-acted "reality" show.
 
Tazz070299 said:
One thing I've found with internet fora, regardless of the subject is that they have to be quite eclectic regardless of the main topic. By covering a wide range of issues e.g. different models/usage/subjects in order to attract interest in the first place.

They then have to have a very tolerant membership and set of moderators. LZ may seem to have a crusty, intolerant bunch of members at times who don't suffer fools, but at its heart there are a very genuine bunch of people who are generous with both their knowledge and time.

Thirdly, the interest base can't be too specific. There are Land Rover forums out there which concentrate on particular models/4x4 activity/interest. But unless you want to know why the 9 rivets on the rear door quarter panel on a 110 TD5 are painted on the nearside, but unpainted on the offside, they're not much use on a daily basis.

Fourthly - humour. Unless the atmosphere within the forum has the facility for members to laugh at itself, to chide others, and occasionally go OTT, you might as well use Wikipedia for your answers.

Fifthly. The buzz. I can't put my finger on this, but there are many Land Rover forums out there. Some purport to be official clubs/forum but if the memberships are dismissive of others (apart from Gaylanders of course), because your vehicle has coil and not cart springs, even though their membership criteria states otherwise, then people will go away.

Sixthly. An easy to understand lay out. when I first got interested in Land Rovers for the second time in my life (about 6 years ago) I joined a number of Land Rover forums (well the free ones). At that time there were 2 forums which were head and shoulders above the others in terms of interest and popularity. LZ was one. The other equally popular one went through a change of layout and involvement of its very influential sponsor/site owner. Despite many protests about the changes, about difficulty in finding items, the site stuck with the new format. Today that forum is but a shadow of its predecessor and no longer gives LZ a run for its money.

Put all those 6 factors together and you have a chance of success because what a forum needs most is high volumes of postings. After all, if I have an MOT on Saturday and want to know how to adjust the parking brake (which I don't by the way) then where do I ask the question? On the Land Rover Series IIa rivet counters and aligned screwheads forum, (membership 175, all of whom will have had their cocoa by 9.00 pm) or LZ (membership n'000s). Both will probably give me the right answer, but the former will take 15 days, LZ will deliver in 15 minutes (or 15 nanoseconds if James Martin is online and 30 nanoseconds for a different reply from Wammers :D.

I suppose finally you can't have a good forum without mentioning the tireless contribution of moderators. Some forums have moderators who give up their time selflessly, rule with a sense of benign dictatorship, and are only too willing to roll up their sleeves not being afraid of hard work. (not always necessary for success though - look at LZ).:D:D
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fanatic said:
Come to an LZ party and it's a scream
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Well, Mr Fanatic, you're one of the ones I'm thinking about - more or less your entire life story goes on here. When you're famous and people are writing your biography, this is where they'll need to look.
 
Brown said:
Well, Mr Fanatic, you're one of the ones I'm thinking about - more or less your entire life story goes on here. When you're famous and people are writing your biography, this is where they'll need to look.
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:hysterically_laughi:hysterically_laughi bit like the local pub-- except not full of free masons and more fun.

That and I do have an LZ addiction


CAKE:p
 
100% agree with Mr Tazz :)

I'm a closed book on here and keep all my real life outside of LZ :rolleyes:


Use the forum for its technical know how and the rest is incidental . Btw could anybody tell me where i am , im lost i appear to have wandered out of AG :eek:
 
Tazz070299 said:
unless you want to know why the 9 rivets on the rear door quarter panel on a 110 TD5 are painted on the nearside, but unpainted on the offside.



I suppose finally you can't have a good forum without mentioning the tireless contribution of moderators. Some forums have moderators who give up their time selflessly, rule with a sense of benign dictatorship, and are only too willing to roll up their sleeves not being afraid of hard work.
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a) Why is that?
b) Where is that?
 
The real reason is that if you don't keep a close and frequent eye on the forum, someone will put up a poll questioning your sexuality/political affiliation/hairstyle/drinking habits etc. That and the fact that it's a bloody good laugh. Oh yes, there's some bloody good technical stuff, too.
 
You only have to look at the LZrescue thread for the tyre yesterday, member had a problem, all sorted within a VERY short time, probably by people he'd never met:clap2::clap2:
Yes everyone may take the **** out of noobs and each other, if people can't handle that, then that really is THEIR problem and THEIR loss:rolleyes:
This is a Speshull forum, full of Speshull people:p:p:p:p
 
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