why wait for the gasket? RTV sealant is all that is on mine and yes load those bad boys up with grease before you put them in, dont fill everything with grease but a bloody good slathering in grease never did anybody any harm now did it ;)
 
DiscoPol said:
why wait for the gasket? RTV sealant is all that is on mine and yes load those bad boys up with grease before you put them in, dont fill everything with grease but a bloody good slathering in grease never did anybody any harm now did it ;)
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Oooo okay thanks for that, obviously I'll have to separate the bearing from the race when push the race in, so should I grease under the race to help it go in?
 
You can drive them in using the old race but only so far as the second race will be flush with the hub before the first race is home. Personally, i have been using a large socket and a 3 armed puller. draper do one for ~£20 which is good enough.
 
nickp3003 said:
Oooo okay thanks for that, obviously I'll have to separate the bearing from the race when push the race in, so should I grease under the race to help it go in?
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I always cover everything in grease, the race can be greased slightly to help it go in just make sure the hub innards are clean and free of scratches and marks where you have drifted the old race out, i have had to run a bit of emery paper round the inside in the past when i have been a bit enthusiastic removing the old race without a soft metal drift, but we all live and learn. just a smear is all i would say for the race then load up the bearing itself before popping it into place and sealing in with the hub seal, i usually put a bit of grease on the hub seal too where it will sit against the stub axle make sure you put the hub seal in the right way round.
 
Great that's what I needed to know, I've filed the rough edges down and polished with wire wool all the inside, wiped it clean with rag and I'll give it a blast of compressed air tomorrow to make sure it's nice and clean :)
 
Bearings are all in the hub

But the hub will not slide on the stub axle? It's as if the inner bearing is too small?

Also the swivel housing is loose on one side and leaking easy fix?

Thank you again this ain't going well!!
 
nickp3003 said:
Bearings are all in the hub

But the hub will not slide on the stub axle? It's as if the inner bearing is too small?

Also the swivel housing is loose on one side and leaking easy fix?

Thank you again this ain't going well!!
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You have to give them a firm push sometimes, at the right angle. they are machined to the thou. As far as the swivel is concerned, you might wanna consider a rebuild of this whole assembly. What exactly do you mean "on one side"?
 
nickp3003 said:
Bearings are all in the hub

But the hub will not slide on the stub axle? It's as if the inner bearing is too small?

Also the swivel housing is loose on one side and leaking easy fix?

Thank you again this ain't going well!!
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You did get the inner race off the stub axle, didn't you?? Failing that check part numbers to make sure you have the correct bearings and stub axle.
 
Larry365 said:
You have to give them a firm push sometimes, at the right angle. they are machined to the thou. As far as the swivel is concerned, you might wanna consider a rebuild of this whole assembly. What exactly do you mean "on one side"?
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The swivel is leaking on the drivers side and feels loose, I think the seals gone so will have to strip down and replace.

I've given the bearing a good push but it will not play ball :( should I heat it up? Clear the grease off the stub? :(
 
Pikey said:
You did get the inner race off the stub axle, didn't you?? Failing that check part numbers to make sure you have the correct bearings and stub axle.
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Yep I've got 4 races! Stub axle is clean and defiantly got the same bearings, compared them with the old ones and there the same, shouldn't it slide on easy?
 
I had to use a puller to get the hub with old bearings off though? Any tricks to get it on a bit easier?
 
Usually the first inner bearing goes on easy then the second needs a wobble to line up. It will either not go on at all or slide of with a bit of pressure. Don't heat anything, it will only weaken parts. Check part numbers as the stub could be different. Did you change the stub? You will need to change the swivel seal, this involves taking the swivel ball off the axle. and then shimming up.
 
Just to help things. To get well educated on a task, a mix of the workshop manual (search 'rave land rover' if you dont have it already) and 'Land rover toolbox axle overhaul' playlist on youtube is a big help.
 
Thanks guys right the stub had too much grease on stopping the bearing goin on! All ok now, and on.

That's the left hand side sorted now for the right hand.. I spilt brake fluid over the swivel housing and it must of eaten the seal, the swivel feels loose, so can u get a repair kit? I did replace the stub on this side too..

Also where's the drain plug? It's a 1997 300tdi cannot find the drain I've found the filler...
 
nickp3003 said:
Thanks guys right the stub had too much grease on stopping the bearing goin on! All ok now, and on.

That's the left hand side sorted now for the right hand.. I spilt brake fluid over the swivel housing and it must of eaten the seal, the swivel feels loose, so can u get a repair kit? I did replace the stub on this side too..

Also where's the drain plug? It's a 1997 300tdi cannot find the drain I've found the filler...
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AFAIK there isnt a drain plug on later disco's as EP90 was replaced by one shot grease. Can someone verify this for me please?

If the housing is loose then it prob needs resetting and some more shims. Did you unbolt the top pin to move the brake hose? this might have caused it. Its trial and error but you basically want to add shims until there is a bit of drag on the swivel (all rods detached). There is a specific amount if you want to get technical. Make sure you lift the housing while tightening to top pin bolts. If there is vertical movement then add more shims to the top pin. You don't need to touch the bottom pin; the housing can be removed and replaced from the ball with this bottom pin, and its bearing, in place. You might want to consider changing both bearings too.
 
Larry365 said:
AFAIK there isnt a drain plug on later disco's as EP90 was replaced by one shot grease. Can someone verify this for me please?

If the housing is loose then it prob needs resetting and some more shims. Did you unbolt the top pin to move the brake hose? this might have caused it. Its trial and error but you basically want to add shims until there is a bit of drag on the swivel (all rods detached). There is a specific amount if you want to get technical. Make sure you lift the housing while tightening to top pin bolts. If there is vertical movement then add more shims to the top pin. You don't need to touch the bottom pin; the housing can be removed and replaced from the ball with this bottom pin, and its bearing, in place. You might want to consider changing both bearings too.
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Yes I just realised I've removed both the bolts on top for the brake hose bracket, would this be causing the leak?
 
Yes it would make them loose. They need torquing back up to reset the pre load on the bearings. If you have to remove the bolts try to hold the swivel up with your legs, remove or put the brake hose clip back on and then put the bolts back in torque up and it should be ok.
 
Right I've tightened them up holding the stub up with my knee there's no movement! But it's leaving a film of grease on the ball, could this be excess on the outside of the seal? There not a lot of grease but it is a thin film?
 
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