Upwards and onwards
Upwards and onwards
gold rover
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Is that km?
Around 432.000kms
gold rover
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Jeeezzzz that's a lotThat's miles my dear
I thought km as you're in French France 
I think that's what it is.Yip, the outer track rod end, the inner track rod end. A longish bar with a ball joint fitting that screws into the rack end.
With the help of @ER1C wobbling my wheel.. i can feel movement in the driver's side gaiter. I think!
Which is weird because the noise (while driving over bumps) sounds like it's coming from the left, no clunk when the drivers wheel goes over a bump.
Could it be unrelated?
hef19898
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Ah, those damn "tuning" clowns ruining their cars to make more noise really drive me crazy. Not for any noise reason, that is those idiots problem, but because their butchering of exhausts, violating emission and noise regulations, has everyone over here on edge regarding exhausts. From cops to MOT TÜV. And now I suffer, as replacement standard exhaust manifolds are expensive as hel, hard to combine and used anyways. Rebuilding mi e is a fools errand. And the tubular ones I could get registered without issues don't fit the normal system, road worthy because it patttern fits the original.
And the full tubular system is not TÜV compliant. Well, that means some exhaust welding I guess to make the tubular manifolds fit.
And the full tubular system is not TÜV compliant. Well, that means some exhaust welding I guess to make the tubular manifolds fit.
Yes of course, what i meant.. have i found a problem i didn't know i had?If there's play it's an issue, whether or not it's "the" issue my good man.
hef19898
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Seems to happen quite requently, doesn't it?Yes of course, what i meant.. have i found a problem i didn't know i had?
Wouldn't be a land rover any other way!!Seems to happen quite requently, doesn't it?
hef19898
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Yesterday I could sleep, so I did what every sane person would do, I dug deep into this whole exhaust without certificate, noise and registration thing. And honestly, despite this bring noz really cheap, appr. 700 bucks for the noise testing and registration, I should be fine. It turns out that the noise levels I am allowed to have are high (!), 83 dB(A) measured at a 45° angle 50 cm away from the exhaust or 79 dB(A) measerued according to DIN. Modern super cars are allowed to have 75 dB(A). That might just work out, me thinks!
I don't think those number are particularly high! Just normal
hef19898
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Well, super car noise limits in Germany are 75 dB(A), so 79 is roughly 30% higher than that. Normal road cars are capped at 73, if I remember correctly, I am allowed to be at least 60% in perceived noise over that. dB(A) is on a logarithmic scale, not linear, so around + 6 to 10 dB(A) are perceived double as loud.
Turned out that i am not the only one with that problem. Everyone, from classic motorbikes (motorbikes are the main target for Police noise controls I was told) to classic sportscars like Porsches and the like, has the same Problem: obsolete exhaust parts and no new ones being certified by the manufacturer. That also means that there are well defined procedures in place for those cases, all I need to do is follow those.
Turned out that i am not the only one with that problem. Everyone, from classic motorbikes (motorbikes are the main target for Police noise controls I was told) to classic sportscars like Porsches and the like, has the same Problem: obsolete exhaust parts and no new ones being certified by the manufacturer. That also means that there are well defined procedures in place for those cases, all I need to do is follow those.
By bike exhaust (OEM) is stamped 93db
hef19898
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Nice! Bikes are allowed higher limits here as well, some as high as 105 or so. Old enough, and there are no limits at all.
Germany authorities turned nuts regarding exhaust noise, some people are just crazy. Emptying exhaust dampeners, installing straight pipes, using dedicated racing exhausts, or cheap Chinese look a likes, on road cars and bikes. Some even install loud speakers to fake V8 sounds in the trunk. And than red line those through down town to impress the ladies, and other **** heads like them.
Stupid people are always part of the reason why we cannot have nice things.
Germany authorities turned nuts regarding exhaust noise, some people are just crazy. Emptying exhaust dampeners, installing straight pipes, using dedicated racing exhausts, or cheap Chinese look a likes, on road cars and bikes. Some even install loud speakers to fake V8 sounds in the trunk. And than red line those through down town to impress the ladies, and other **** heads like them.
Stupid people are always part of the reason why we cannot have nice things.
Some of the newer ducati are like that. Static noise testing on trackdays is usually 102db so they aren't allowed out. Even though they will pass drive by 'on track' limits
A large capacity Ducati v4 Will be tested at i think 5500rpm and i think some of them will rev to 16500 rpm at the limiter
My two P38's definitely sound different, but MOT testers & me have never checked noise levels. The Blue P38 has single back box & does sound noisier, but no one has ever complained. Ran it once after the engine rebuild with CAT's off, which turned a few heads but no complaints !!
