Wasn't Brussels on about something similar a few years backGlad i don't live down under!!!
I wonder how long it will be before we catch on!?
This Australian city wants to charge people to work on their cars
A simple oil change could cost more than $400 for residents of this Australian city, which now requires permits for common acts.www.carexpert.com.au
Mind you, i bet you won't be allowed to work on an ev in case you blow yourself up
I'm not allowed to work on them for one powerful reasonGlad i don't live down under!!!
I wonder how long it will be before we catch on!?This Australian city wants to charge people to work on their cars
A simple oil change could cost more than $400 for residents of this Australian city, which now requires permits for common acts.
Mind you, i bet you won't be allowed to work on an ev in case you blow yourself up
We've got to be trained for 'em...
It sounds like jealousy to me.. how dare you do something yourself.. you should pay a garage 1000s like i do
Exactly with sub standard work
Including but not limited to, main dealers, those technically best qualified to work on your car
Plus closing down the small back street garage that usually does a better job in my opinion
I think it's just aimed at people changing a bulb on their driveway.
You know.. bumper off, engine out etc to change a headlight bulb on a modern car
hef19898
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Come on guys, some rules around old engine oil and other car fluid recycling are good. I don't want people to dump 6 liters of engine oil into the ground.
The way around the EU rule to have easy access to ligh bulps, and yes that EU rule does exist, are LED head light boxes. As a private person, you do not have to be trained by law to work on a car. You have to if you do it commercially, which is fine with me.
And then, well, all modern cars tand require new diagnostics software to do anything, costing thousands. They require new, specialized tool kits, again costing thousands. The days if the DIY mechanic are long, long gone. We here tend to ignore that with our old, simple Land Rovers.
The reason for all of the above so is not political or regulation, it is car OEM trying to squeeze out independant garages in favour of their own brand networks.
And well, then there are those modern cars where you are well served having proper training for said vehicle to do proper maintenance, from ECU programming to working on HV electrical systems, including some of the start-stop systems currently being used.
That being said, cars got a lot cleaner and safer since the 80s, so not all is bad.
The way around the EU rule to have easy access to ligh bulps, and yes that EU rule does exist, are LED head light boxes. As a private person, you do not have to be trained by law to work on a car. You have to if you do it commercially, which is fine with me.
And then, well, all modern cars tand require new diagnostics software to do anything, costing thousands. They require new, specialized tool kits, again costing thousands. The days if the DIY mechanic are long, long gone. We here tend to ignore that with our old, simple Land Rovers.
The reason for all of the above so is not political or regulation, it is car OEM trying to squeeze out independant garages in favour of their own brand networks.
And well, then there are those modern cars where you are well served having proper training for said vehicle to do proper maintenance, from ECU programming to working on HV electrical systems, including some of the start-stop systems currently being used.
That being said, cars got a lot cleaner and safer since the 80s, so not all is bad.
Datatek
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I would say that the likelihood of self harm working on a 400 volt EV electrical system is somewhat greater than working on brakes.
Datatek
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A friend of mine used to have a back street garage specialising in Volvo's. It used to amuse me that the local Volvo dealership would send cars with problems they couldn't fix to him to repair.
hef19898
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Without proper training, no garage in their right minds will let one of their employees touch one of those.
hef19898
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Doesn't surprise me. I had a chat with the nice service rep from the JLR garage that services my wife's XE. For all major brands, VW, BMW, Peugeot, you name it, there will always be someone to be hired who knows those cars, maybe even the older ones. For neiche brands, Volvo, Jaguar, Saab (they were the first to run into those problems around here), well, not so much. Especially for older models, new hires are trained on the more recent models on the job. So if some older model shows up at a garage with an odd issue, those folks in the free garages having only worked on a given brand for decades, have a clear advantage.
Datatek
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They didn't just send the older cars, sometimes it was the newer models often with electronic problems.
It's a different way of thinking sometimes but still difficult at best
My brother-in-law's fairly modern BMW blew an ECU about 18 months ago. 6 months and 1 x ECU and new key later the local garage gave up and sent it back to him with an ABS fault and a bill for £1400. Then another 6 months and 1 x ECU and 2 new keys later the local main dealer gave up on it. It's still at the dealers waiting to be collected and paid for.
but you could, lets say, drive into a school, or a street parade etc
Grrrrrr
Technician, Bodgit & Scarper Ltd
Not sure about that but I would have to talk to a pro before I tried it. The current required to propel a 2 ton brick to 60 mph in under 10 seconds must be pretty high. Wouldn't want that earthing through my socks.
