Well I'm still baffled by the symptoms I had and how I came to get them but all is sorted now.
Got up early this morning, fitted a new set of front pads, and found that one of the pins on the passenger side was also siezed. The new pins haven't arrived yet so cleaned up all the old ones again an refitted everything. Went to the rear and removed, then refitted the new shoes I had fitted last week. Even though everything is free, I wasn't convinced that the self adjusters were adjusting so set them up by hand. Then set up handbrake again. Then I set about bleeding.. Couldn't do the rears as the nipples were already rounded off .
Pedal now feels better than it has ever done and even though the pads and shoes are not bedded in yet the brakes also feel better than they ever have before.
Will fit the new guide pins when they arrive and order 2 new rear cylinders, bur for now I'm a happy bunny !!!
Thanks for all the replies....... As ever much appreciated
Chris
Got up early this morning, fitted a new set of front pads, and found that one of the pins on the passenger side was also siezed. The new pins haven't arrived yet so cleaned up all the old ones again an refitted everything. Went to the rear and removed, then refitted the new shoes I had fitted last week. Even though everything is free, I wasn't convinced that the self adjusters were adjusting so set them up by hand. Then set up handbrake again. Then I set about bleeding.. Couldn't do the rears as the nipples were already rounded off .
Pedal now feels better than it has ever done and even though the pads and shoes are not bedded in yet the brakes also feel better than they ever have before.
Will fit the new guide pins when they arrive and order 2 new rear cylinders, bur for now I'm a happy bunny !!!
Thanks for all the replies....... As ever much appreciated
Chris
Kizzeh
Well-Known Member
For when you put new pins in - get a drill bit in where the pins go as turn it by hand. Should take all the rust and crap out of them. Are you getting new rubbers for the pins whilst your there?
Glad it's all sorted now
My rear self adjusters don't self adjust very well. Every time I re adjust them I am surprised how much better the pedal feels
At least you don't have to worry about your breaks for a while!
Glad it's all sorted now
My rear self adjusters don't self adjust very well. Every time I re adjust them I am surprised how much better the pedal feels
At least you don't have to worry about your breaks for a while!
Had a similar problem. My handbrake was weak so decided to remove the drums to check over. Shoes okay, handbrake cables okay and free to move, but on each side one of the two pins that hold the brake shoes to the back plate was missing? So ordered new genuine ones for a reasonable £5 from KRMotors (Hull) ebay page, stripped out the shoes, cleaned everything, re-assembled each side and set the adjusters to minimum after checking they were free (one wasn't). As expected the handbrake was worse and much more travel on brake pedal but thought it would all come good again after a few days use when the adjusters did their job. However no change, so tomorrow going to take the drums off again and see what's occurring (or not).
Tannaton
Not sure if it's correct but it worked for me.......... Set up the foot brake adjustment on the rears manually ie moved the adjusters so they were just free from drums. Then set up hand brake using adjuster under centre console....... So that shoes were just about touching on ist click
Chris
Not sure if it's correct but it worked for me.......... Set up the foot brake adjustment on the rears manually ie moved the adjusters so they were just free from drums. Then set up hand brake using adjuster under centre console....... So that shoes were just about touching on ist click
Chris
Nodge68
Well-Known Member
I expect that your pads had worn at an angle due to the seized slide pins. Once you freed the pins, the pads needed to bed in again. This would have taken ages. Fitting new pads squared everything up, problem solved. .
Nodge68
Well-Known Member
The inner pads were still able to move as the piston was still free. However because the pins were stuck, the outside pads couldn't move. Every time you used the brakes, the inner pad pushed the disc into the outside pad. This continued until the disc couldn't bend any more and your brakes stopped working. This is why the inner pad was worn at an angle. The rest you know. I'm glad you fixed it before the front of the car needed fixing too
Last edited:
