D90mitch · Oct 27, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Very true. but most get stuck because they ride up on the snow and there tyres are off the ground/road

well the advice I gave is the best with the tyres given I think. In deep snow you want to ride on the top in order to not sink and and bottom out, thats why icelandic trucks have mahoosive tyres. But then again if the snow is sub 1 foot its irrelevant i guess. Some snow tyres work by actually picking the snow up in the tread and using the snow itself to grip the ice on compacted snow.

blue beasty · Oct 27, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Very true. but most get stuck because they ride up on the snow and there tyres are off the ground/road

That would suggest tyre diameter is more important that anything else.....make yer mind up

Truth is snow is a very changable, varied surface to drive on and different tyre patterns perform better or worse depending on the conditions, there is no better or worse as a snowfall changes so much from first fall, compacting, partial melts, freezing......driver awareness and ability is everything

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Very true. but most get stuck because they ride up on the snow and there tyres are off the ground/road

thats what we found in the snow earlier this year snow getting rammed underneath, lifts body, wheels start spinning, then your stuck and out with the shovel

blue beasty · Oct 27, 2013

SteNova said:
thats what we found in the snow earlier this year snow getting rammed underneath, lifts body, wheels start spinning, then your stuck and out with the shovel

You should've waited til the snow was gone to go out vandalising road signs

blue beasty · Oct 27, 2013

blue beasty said:
You should've waited til the snow was gone to go out vandalising road signs

Oooo you changed it, probably wise

landowner · Oct 27, 2013

blue beasty said:
It's worth noting that all cars have 4 wheel braking so no matter what tyres you have 4wd might get you up places that you can't safely get back down :crazy_driver:

Don't think you should be using the brakes when its very slippery, four wheel engine braking is very good on a landy, use the gears to slow down

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

blue beasty said:
You should've waited til the snow was gone to go out vandalising road signs

needs must, he'd be stuck out there all night with a flat battery and snapped alt belt, we took a battery and belt out there on a sledge with a 5 mile walk from the nearest usable road

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

blue beasty said:
Oooo you changed it, probably wise

nahh i found the pic i was looking for that showed the depth

D90mitch · Oct 27, 2013

Wish i even got snow like that to go in lol, we get **** all where I live, they close everything with 3 inches LOL

blue beasty · Oct 27, 2013

landowner said:
Don't think you should be using the brakes when its very slippery, four wheel engine braking is very good on a landy, use the gears to slow down

Very true but it's also true you can get up a slope that even engine braking in low first will have you lose traction....momentum helps you get up and unfortunately helps on the way down as well.

Once you start to slide the best you can hope for is aim for somewhere that may have some grip (the verge usually) or chose what you will hit.

There's plenty of hills around here I know I can get up in pretty extreme conditions but getting down again is another game

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

blue beasty said:
Very true but it's also true you can get up a slope that even engine braking in low first will have you lose traction....momentum helps you get up and unfortunately helps on the way down as well.

Once you start to slide the best you can hope for is aim for somewhere that may have some grip (the verge usually) or chose what you will hit.

There's plenty of hills around here I know I can get up in pretty extreme conditions but getting down again is another game

you drive down the side in the hedge

Thor1950 · Oct 27, 2013

SteNova said:
thats what we found in the snow earlier this year snow getting rammed underneath, lifts body, wheels start spinning, then your stuck and out with the shovel

That is what happens

been there and done that 40 yrs ago with my first 4x4. Know I look in rear view mirror and if is see the difffs leaving a trail I make a choice to carry on or turn around, most times reverse/turn around. I hate them fookin shovels

Thor1950 · Oct 27, 2013

landowner said:
Don't think you should be using the brakes when its very slippery, four wheel engine braking is very good on a landy, use the gears to slow down

Them abs systems are great for preventing that just steady pressure and let the system work. I have had engine braking throw a spin/slide before. Them jake brakes are dangerous on ice/slippery roads That is why they have a tag do not use on slippery/icey roads. I know defender does not have a jake, but same effect

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

D90mitch said:
Wish i even got snow like that to go in lol, we get **** all where I live, they close everything with 3 inches LOL

it got way worse than that but the pics arn't good, i'll get one of mine from where i got to... the road stopped here where the diggers got to

as for down hill the D3 above has hill desent etc and was funny in the ice, i tried walking down a hill next to it i ended up on my arse as it was just making loads of nasty sounding abs noise and creeping down the hill

sp00k · Oct 27, 2013

The first time I drove my landy in snow, the things I noticed most were balance and weight. Compared to cars, it felt unbalanced. It's front end heavy with the weight of engine being so high. Then there is of course the substantial weight of the chassis. I was particularly wary when cornering and stopping.

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

sp00k said:
The first time I drove my landy in snow, the things I noticed most were balance and weight. Compared to cars, it felt unbalanced. It's front end heavy with the weight of engine being so high. Then there is of course the substantial weight of the chassis. I was particularly wary when cornering and stopping.

thats where a car with winter tyres wins hands down, the landy only wins with height
this is epic in the snow and was even having ranges with road tyres off on slippery hills

with traction & stablilty control you just floor it and steer

Untitled by Ste_Nova, on Flickr

blue beasty · Oct 27, 2013

SteNova said:
you drive down the side in the hedge

Doesn't tend to work so well in town

SteNova · Oct 27, 2013

blue beasty said:
Doesn't tend to work so well in town

ahh i forgot about towns.... i don't do towns lol

mutsnutz · Oct 27, 2013

i just keep mud tyres on never been stuck yet (touch wood) i must get out when snow is down im a CFR and also go get bits and pieces for elderly neighbours

Spyderman · Oct 28, 2013

As soon as the snow comes the Fedima Sciroccos will be coming off and my Pirelli Ice & Snow Winter tyres will be going on. Nothing beats a proper winter tyre below 7C.

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