mike56

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I have a 110 Defender Puma and understand I should be able to tow 3.5 Tons?

I am thinking of buying a boat that weighs 2.5 tons and guess a suitable trailer will take the weight up to around 3.5 tons.

Question is... What do I need to do to my vehicle to be able to legally tow this trailer? I assume I need to modify my vehicle to be able to operate the trailer brakes?

Thanks

Mike
 
I have a 110 Defender Puma and understand I should be able to tow 3.5 Tons?

I am thinking of buying a boat that weighs 2.5 tons and guess a suitable trailer will take the weight up to around 3.5 tons.

Question is... What do I need to do to my vehicle to be able to legally tow this trailer? I assume I need to modify my vehicle to be able to operate the trailer brakes?

Thanks

Mike

Standard Def.tows 3500kg trailer with overrun brakes, no mods are required.
I would check you are licensed to tow 3500 kg, if it doesn't say B&E on your licence you will need to take a trailer test
 
I have a 110 Defender Puma and understand I should be able to tow 3.5 Tons?

I am thinking of buying a boat that weighs 2.5 tons and guess a suitable trailer will take the weight up to around 3.5 tons.

Question is... What do I need to do to my vehicle to be able to legally tow this trailer? I assume I need to modify my vehicle to be able to operate the trailer brakes?

Thanks

Mike

AIUI, you can tow 3.5 tonnes on over-run brakes - i.e. ones that are operated automatically by the trailer. If the trailer has another braking mechanism (e.g. air brakes), then the Land Rover will need modifying, but the towing weight goes up.
 
Thanks,

Am surprised to learn I can tow 3.5 with over run brakes. Thought I would need some mods.

Ref driving licence. Will check but passed test 40 years ago so asssume OK?

Mike
 
You should be OK with your licence - I got mine in '89 and I have B+E. And yes, the Land Rover is perfectly capable of doing what you want :)
 
Thanks,

Am surprised to learn I can tow 3.5 with over run brakes. Thought I would need some mods.

Ref driving licence. Will check but passed test 40 years ago so asssume OK?

Mike

Licence will be fine then. You certainly can tow 3500 kg, I do it often.
If you aren't experienced with heavy towing, I would read up on it a bit, and try and get some practice somewhere quiet before heading out on busy roads.
 
People usually run into trouble not with the pulling but with the pushing , especially if the trailer brakes are not maintained correctly. Loading distribution is also important . Overun brakes are also something to be wary of in conditions of low adhesion .
 
The main trick with towing is to be a plodder

Better to leave 15 minutes earlier than spend 4 hours pulling it out of a ditch

Every summer I'd see matchwood caravans because people were in a rush to get there

Slow and steady is best
 
We tow 3.5 tonnes almost to the limit with our 6-wheel drawbar turntable box trailer. We take a large Ruston & Hornsby horizontal diesel engine to shows in the season (It will be at the LandyZone 10th Anniversary Bash) and we go to Europe as well with it.

Two things you will need to note:

1) Acceleration is seriously affected, you can't odds that, but with a TD5 Defender you've got 135bhp against 183bhp for our V8, or slightly less with the Puma engine (122bhp?) so don't expect fireworks and make sure that all your gearbox and transfer box oils are OK and up to level.

2) Braking is 'different'! We find that if the brakes on the trailer are too sharp, it can causes problems, but by the same token they must work properly. You have to leave more room for braking, even more than usual as it takes time for the trailer brakes to come on, and if the ABS system on the Defender kicks in, you may have unbalanced braking as the trailer obviously relies on its weight pushing on the trailer coupling to put the brakes on. We have six braked wheels, but in the wet the front axle can jacknife if it gets too much braking while turning.

We've done many trips with ours, Nuenen in Holland is our usual destination, but we go up and down the country over here, next month we are in Shildon at the NRM Museum, then the LandyZone bash then Fawley Hill rally near Henley.

Ours is only ever loaded, we don't move it much with nothing in the back, so you'd also have to get used to the trailer running empty as well if you haven't already done so.

Take your time, allow plenty of time for trips and don't be suckered into making rash moves with the loaded trailer behind, it can go wrong so quickly, and you're a passenger when it does.

Good luck!

Peter
 
Thanks all,

All noted.

The main issue I was interested in was the legality. I now understand I will be legal subject to checking my driving licence and ensuring the trailer is no more than 3.5 tons and that this will be legal with over run brakes.

The other issues are of course me being sensible while towing.

Additionally the initial pull up a boat slipway will be typically on a gradient of around 1:3. Will this cause any problems?

Thanks

Mike
 
Additionally the initial pull up a boat slipway will be typically on a gradient of around 1:3. Will this cause any problems?

low 1 diff lock, straight line and get the clutch fully out asap

quite often when towing our heavy trailer and the engine is cold I will leave it in low for the first mile till I get to the main road where it goes down hill
 
I launch and recover with our 3.25T boat/trailer generally using the front-fitted tow ball.

Going in 1st low box and coming out 1st low box both with diff lock engaged. clutch out immediately and she will pull up the 1:2 ramp with no problems at all on tickover.
 
Definitely use low range for the pull , that way you will have a clutch that lasts a bit longer ! ;)
 
I launch and recover with our 3.25T boat/trailer generally using the front-fitted tow ball.

Going in 1st low box and coming out 1st low box both with diff lock engaged. clutch out immediately and she will pull up the 1:2 ramp with no problems at all on tickover.

quick question oldseadog, what or how do you mount your front towball to, just the bumper,??
and do you use a drop plate for reducing the ball height ?

remember my old dad (I`m 66) having an offset from centreline towball on his lada niva front bumper that he used to park up his touring van using the offset front towball

It would be useful for me to have a front mounted towball aswell...


by the way, I just checked my driving license, grandads rights gives me all sorts of classes of things :)
 
quick question oldseadog, what or how do you mount your front towball to, just the bumper,??
and do you use a drop plate for reducing the ball height ?

remember my old dad (I`m 66) having an offset from centreline towball on his lada niva front bumper that he used to park up his touring van using the offset front towball

It would be useful for me to have a front mounted towball aswell...

i have a proper front mounted towball frame that mounts to the chassis sitting in my garage that i am prepared to part with ;)
 
My front towball is mounted through the front bumper which has a 2' length of 10mm plate and the standard towball backplate fitted in the bumper channel to spread the load.

As mine is offset to just inside the chassis rail I have fastened the other end of the 10mm plate with an M12 bolt.
 
My front towball is mounted through the front bumper which has a 2' length of 10mm plate and the standard towball backplate fitted in the bumper channel to spread the load.

As mine is offset to just inside the chassis rail I have fastened the other end of the 10mm plate with an M12 bolt.

;)
thanks.
 
No problem ;);)

It also makes parking the trailer spot on accurate, as we store our boat in a container with a gap of 2" each side of it, and so far have not managed to scrape the sides :D:D:D
 
yeah just make sure you keep the trailer in good nic. I tow my 23 foot searay with a 200tdi 90, trailer no longer has brakes but we are only towing down the road. the salt water seizes them up pretty quick, especially if you dunk the trailer in after a long journey.
 

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