Spyderman · Jan 10, 2011

Ahaggar said:
the only thing is the melting effekt thing, makes me wonder how that should work.
Fakt is that the Blocks have cuts that open slightly and generate a larger surface.

They don't have a melting effect, the Sipes or cuts are there to allow the tread blocks to move around slightly which helps keep the tread blocks pliable, but their main function is to aid in the tyre's mechanical grip on the surface.

Ryder · Jan 10, 2011

Having taken the a better look at the ones on Spydies motor... I think I get the idea. The differences seem quite subtle but are obviously effective.

ForestofDoom · Jan 11, 2011

Spyderman said:
Agreed on the Muds, I take mine off at the first sign of an icy road. Good in fresh snow though like you say.
Best time to buy Winter Tyres is May-Sept. Rally snow tyres are not designed for highway use, if indeed legal.
I can fit my chains to my Espace in about 2 minutes per chain, they're self tensioning, so no stopping to re-adjust them after 100m. Taking them off about 30 seconds per chain.

BFG A/T are about as good as it gets for normal tyres in winter conditions, but I had a direct comparison with BFG A/Ts against my Ice & Snow just before Christmas when I was called out to rescue a Police Astra, Insignia and Transit Tipper that was stuck/crashed on an snow/ice covered hill. A police Misubishi 4x4 with BFG A/Ts fitted turned up, he could move but didn't have the traction to rescue anything. It was so icy it was hard just to keep standing. He went and left it to me to drag them, which I did no problem. That's the difference.

Some of the maxsport range are highway legal and at 50 quid a tyre its good value.

I think most people would be ok with BFG A/T unless they are doing recovery work like yourself.

Impressive difference though between winter and standard AT tyre

Clanforbes · Jan 11, 2011

The comments about the meltie thing have me intrigued. I can see how they could maybe help with a meltie effect if they became warm like a normal road tyre. I assume that internal friction as the compound flexes could feasibly warm the tyre a little thus creating a meltie effect, especially with the softer compound.

I recently towed a stuck Tesco's lorry out of a difficult situation where he was blocking the main street through our town as he got stuck coming out of a junction (I only hauled him far enough to clear the road) and the surface was snow. When I got home shortly after, I did notice that the contact surface of my AT's actually had a "sticky" feel to them, this was probably caused by my wheels spinning as I towed the lorry and there was a definite warmth in the tyre.

My only experience of "snow tyres" (it actually said snow tyre on the tyre) was a long time ago on an old mkIII Ford Cortina. They were undoubtably excellent in poor conditions but they did wear out quickly during normal conditions. In those days I did drive much harder than I do today, which was probably a major contributing factor in the short life they had.

Ryder · Jan 11, 2011

Clanforbes said:
The comments about the meltie thing have me intrigued. I can see how they could maybe help with a meltie effect if they became warm like a normal road tyre. I assume that internal friction as the compound flexes could feasibly warm the tyre a little thus creating a meltie effect, especially with the softer compound.

I recently towed a stuck Tesco's lorry out of a difficult situation where he was blocking the main street through our town as he got stuck coming out of a junction (I only hauled him far enough to clear the road) and the surface was snow. When I got home shortly after, I did notice that the contact surface of my AT's actually had a "sticky" feel to them, this was probably caused by my wheels spinning as I towed the lorry and there was a definite warmth in the tyre.

My only experience of "snow tyres" (it actually said snow tyre on the tyre) was a long time ago on an old mkIII Ford Cortina. They were undoubtably excellent in poor conditions but they did wear out quickly during normal conditions. In those days I did drive much harder than I do today, which was probably a major contributing factor in the short life they had.

I guess if the compound is softer then as soon as the temperature goes up to something sensible they are going to wear much more quickly than say..ATs

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