Dangermike · Nov 22, 2013

Hi,

Even though is no that cold yet, my hippo seems to be sluggish in the mornings, I can't remember it being like his last year,

Any idea?

IndiTd4 · Nov 22, 2013

You stand outside all night,,
and see how sluggish you are when someone wants you to move rapidly
once you are woken..

Seriously though I have had mine for just over a year and last year it was sluggish
in the mornings, but only until it warms up..I suppose you could sit and wait for it to
warm up but that kind of defeats the idea..

All cars are supposed to be driven with some care before they reach operating temp,
the Freelander just takes this to the limit,

I have a sneaky feeling it may be VCU related,,
as the cold liquid may act like it does when the wheels spin and give 4wd,
cold engine and 4wd will make it sluggish..

JMHO..

sijwhite · Nov 22, 2013

It was -6ºC here this morning. At that temperature the car's headlights take a few seconds to come on but that about all that is sluggish with mine.

I what way is the car being sluggish?

Spacemonkey... · Nov 22, 2013

All my diesels have all been more sluggish until they've moved a hundred metres or so. It's just the cold. They are also less economical in the real cold too I have found.

Epicuser · Nov 23, 2013

Spacemonkey... said:
All my diesels have all been more sluggish until they've moved a hundred metres or so. It's just the cold. They are also less economical in the real cold too I have found.

Winter diesel.......

Spacemonkey... · Nov 23, 2013

Yup, that doesn't help. Well, it does actually, but not for economy.

Epicuser · Nov 23, 2013

My auto won't change into 4th until I have driven about 1 mile at 30mph from cold.

JRNORWAY · Nov 23, 2013

My FL is also acting slow when cold. Especially the gear lever beetween first & second. I have recently installed a 2kw coolant hose heater with a Defa warmup system with a cabin heater.

Its so nice to just unplug the 230V cable and flick the wiper switch and drive away in a warm car while my neighbor are scraping ice of his.

:5bdriving:

Dangermike · Nov 25, 2013

Thanks guys!
Makes me feel more at ease that it's not only me!

hd3 · Nov 25, 2013

I can't remember it being like his last year

did you make any changes since last year ..
engine mods. ?
type of engine oil ?
etc ..

Dangermike · Nov 26, 2013

Changed the oil, but was the first time I've done it so not sure what was in before!,
Haven't don't any mods yet

hd3 · Nov 26, 2013

was sort of wondering if you had a ronbox/synergy ..
and had fitted a pierburg maf instead of the bosch
( the pierburg maf doesn't incorporate an air-intake temp. sensor .. the bosch does .. )
i.e. given the model year of your hippo ..

~~~~~~~~~~

apart from a change of oil viscosity ..
and there being no actual component faults ..
only reason i could think of would be a degraded temp. sensor ..

or maybe the egr valve If you've one still fitted ..
( although i don't know exactly how the ecu calculates as to when that should open or shut .. i.e. whether it's temp. related or not .. )

anyhowz .. according to the weather ppl. early dec. be Slightly warmer than of late ..

Dangermike · Nov 27, 2013

Hi,

Well I recent changed my maf.... I'll have to find out what I fitted!

I know I do have the eml light on, the last time I read the codes it said fuel pressure issue and maf issue, so I changed the maf and the high pressure fuel sensor,

The fact that it's still on I'm guessing means tit didnt sort out the issue

gonna have to get it read soon

Thanks for you help

ebbadger · Nov 27, 2013

Probably a little too obvious but did you change the fuel filter? a partially clogged filter will give sluggish performance and a fuel pressure warning light, mine used to do it running veg oil in the cold which also caused lower fuel pressure.

Cheers Steve

Epicuser · Nov 27, 2013

I have changed everything apart from gearbox oil/ird oil and diff oil, and mine is sluggish in the cold weather for about 1 mile.

Dangermike · Nov 28, 2013

Yeah changed the filter

only thing I thought about changing it the fuel regulator that you screw the filter into,

I'm glad I'm not the only one that is sluggish in the cold, maybe I'm just paranoid

Datatek · Nov 28, 2013

Dangermike said:
Yeah changed the filter only thing I thought about changing it the fuel regulator that you screw the filter into,

I'm glad I'm not the only one that is sluggish in the cold, maybe I'm just paranoid

If it's any consolation, both my Transit and P38 are slugish when cold, seems to be normal on diesels.

hd3 · Nov 29, 2013

had the cold-morning-slug myself today :-(

~~~~~~~~

in my case .. it be the fuel

yesterday i put 40 litres of shell v-power in
before that i'd been running on 'jet' regular diesel
( refinery is near .. so fuel be 'fresh' .. be why i chose it )

had been running shell v-power ( and the equivalent 'bp' and 'esso' fuels )
engine be marginally smoother and quieter .. but mpg was down by aprox 3mpg ..
and it 'seemed' that power/response was down a bit
so tried a few tankfuls of j.r. .. mpg went back up ..
power/response felt a bit better

power:
well .. this morn. it was initially stop 'n go traffic for a few miles
felt sluggish
onto dual.c. .. engine had warmed up .. but had strong headwind
felt like it were taking more go-pedal to overcome the wind
( Litres Per Hour reading was a tad more than i expected as well ..
( even given the h.wind ..

on way back i had opportunity to try full go-pedal on a 'test-hill'
be a mile in length .. gradient be such that downhill in 5th .. foot-off-pedal
vehicle will stick at aprox 50mph
( be an 'A' road .. single lane down .. 2 lanes up )
acceleration didn't feel as strong .. final mph at brow of hill was down by about 5.mph (aprox.)

reason i went back to shell v-power was to see if the engine would start up sooner
in a very cold morning .. e.g. like the 2C it were last week or so
hadn't been struggling to start then .. but seemed to take a few revs longer than it did last year when i was using the only the premium fuels ..

~~~~~~~~

smoother engine combustion and a tad less power/response ..
maybe easier on tyres .. and .. engine internals like crank.'n conrod bearings

in Wiki .. they do put forward that shell v-power does not have as much energy per unit
as regular diesel ..

Epicuser · Nov 29, 2013

I have been told that BP ultimate has a higher cetane rating than v-power. I have been using regular fuel save shell, and occasionally the BP std diesel.

hd3 · Nov 29, 2013

I have been told that BP ultimate has a higher cetane rating than v-power.

so i've read ..
but have read conflicting accounts as well ..
someone also rekoned the shell v-power 'ingredient-mix' changed at some point .. for the worse ( bhp wise ) ..

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Ex Freelander Owner

Well-Known Member

Ex Freelander Owner

Active Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Ex Freelander Owner

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Ex Freelander Owner

Well-Known Member

Similar threads