Hi,

I've been offered a petrol pre-heater which I want to install into my Land
Rover 90 V8 CSW. Eberspacher say its not an installaton that can be done at
home but I so far fail to see whats so complicated about it. Has anyone had
any experience of installing such an item or any opinions?

Its a B5W if that makes a differnece and came from a Range Rover.

Thanks


Simon

"Simon Rose" <simon@thetopofahill.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I've been offered a petrol pre-heater which I want to install into my Land
> Rover 90 V8 CSW. Eberspacher say its not an installaton that can be done
at
> home but I so far fail to see whats so complicated about it. Has anyone
had
> any experience of installing such an item or any opinions?
>
> Its a B5W if that makes a differnece and came from a Range Rover.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Simon

If you have the time and inclination then it's no problem. I suppose they
get a little twitchy being as it could be a bomb if not installed correctly.

There are manuals available , if you need one just shout.

Lee D

yeah thats what I thought (CYOA!). A manual would be excellent if I can have
a look through b4 I buy. Is it emailable? Even one for a differnet model
would be a good start.

Thanks


Simon
"Lee_D"
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> "Simon Rose" <simon@thetopofahill.com> wrote in message
> news:1064830923.64320.0@despina.uk.clara.net...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been offered a petrol pre-heater which I want to install into my
Land
> > Rover 90 V8 CSW. Eberspacher say its not an installaton that can be done
> at
> > home but I so far fail to see whats so complicated about it. Has anyone
> had
> > any experience of installing such an item or any opinions?
> >
> > Its a B5W if that makes a differnece and came from a Range Rover.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Simon
>
> If you have the time and inclination then it's no problem. I suppose they
> get a little twitchy being as it could be a bomb if not installed
correctly.
>
> There are manuals available , if you need one just shout.
>
> Lee D
>
>

"Simon Rose" <simon@thetopofahill.com> wrote in message
news:1064832988.65208.0@despina.uk.clara.net...
> yeah thats what I thought (CYOA!). A manual would be excellent if I can
have
> a look through b4 I buy. Is it emailable? Even one for a differnet model
> would be a good start.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Simon
> "Lee_D"


http://www.1tonnefc.org.uk/

has lost of interesting 101 related info and will be the sort of site your
looking for.

I've also got a few piccys of my set up in Morph which was fitted by
Marshalls many years ago...it may give you an idea of what all the various
bit's and bobs look like. Visualising the parts is half the battle.. They
are.....

http://www.lrproject.com/morph/index.html

then click on the Morph before link to get the photos.

regards

Lee D

hmmm close... Mine is the coolant heater rather than air heater but the
principals are the same. Thanks for the manual - better brush up on my
German.

If anyone has any info on the coolant versino I'd like to look at that too.

Thanks


Simon
"Lee_D"
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> "Simon Rose" <simon@thetopofahill.com> wrote in message
> news:1064832988.65208.0@despina.uk.clara.net...
> > yeah thats what I thought (CYOA!). A manual would be excellent if I can
> have
> > a look through b4 I buy. Is it emailable? Even one for a differnet model
> > would be a good start.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Simon
> > "Lee_D"
>
>
> http://www.1tonnefc.org.uk/
>
> has lost of interesting 101 related info and will be the sort of site your
> looking for.
>
> I've also got a few piccys of my set up in Morph which was fitted by
> Marshalls many years ago...it may give you an idea of what all the various
> bit's and bobs look like. Visualising the parts is half the battle.. They
> are.....
>
> http://www.lrproject.com/morph/index.html
>
> then click on the Morph before link to get the photos.
>
> regards
>
> Lee D
>
>
>

"Simon Rose" <simon@thetopofahill.com> wrote in
news:1064837169.67868.0@despina.uk.clara.net:

> hmmm close... Mine is the coolant heater rather than air heater but the
> principals are the same. Thanks for the manual - better brush up on my
> German.
>
> If anyone has any info on the coolant versino I'd like to look at that
> too.
>
> Thanks

The tricky part is getting a continuous supply of fuel....most of these
heaters have their own half-hour tank, some also keep on sucking from the
maintank while burning....but that requires tapping into the main fuel
line, not the return line (applies only to diesels I guess), as the return
line often ends above fluid level in the tank.

Make sure the heater pumps the fluid in the same direction as the engine
does when running, and that the heat goes to interior first, engine second
(otherwise you miss out on the largest benefit: no more ice on your
windows, and snow that can be wiped off in a split-second)

Does it come with a 30 minute timer?
If you're good in electronics (5V stuff), you can try a bypass for
continuous operation (you need a 12v->5v converter for that, to take over
the 5v signal, and an extra 'kill' button, otherwise it runs forever).
Large vehicles (volume & glass surface) need 60 minutes anyway for a good
de-icing and engine-heating.
(the timers from Webasto come in both 30m and 60m version, the latter also
with a summer-mode, in which it only switches the interior fan....which
reminds me of another tricky part: powering the interior fan, with key-
out....some fan's are switched ground/ground with key out, so you can't
just put the heater's +12V onto the original +12v of the fan (unless a
short is your goal....)
(some, including me, believe that this is done to prevent a generator-
effect when parked in strong winds)

Also keep in mind that it takes even a pro-shop (dealing with these
heaters regularly) nearly a day in labor....

And don't forget to route the exhaust of that thing to a safe place (not
close to a tire for example....).
(get stainless steel components for that part, and use copper-grease, as
the temperature difference will create rust very quickly, and you never get
those bolts & screws undone later)

Here some more/general notes about coolant heaters:

http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/webasto.htm

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

<w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]