jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
strange the actual stem failed and the welding was ok.
Double check the large washer has the dome facing inwards so the shocker can rotate out when compressed. seen a fee failures because the domed nut was on backwards.
as for which ones. personal choice really I like my £12 specials
Double check the large washer has the dome facing inwards so the shocker can rotate out when compressed. seen a fee failures because the domed nut was on backwards.
as for which ones. personal choice really I like my £12 specials
miktdish
Guns n Chainsaws
jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
Probably britpart or Armstrong ones for £12.
miktdish
Guns n Chainsaws
Not sure what make/type they are, they were on when I bought the car. When I get the time to change the shocks i'll look closer...
I bought some Terrafirma from Defender Bits (nice lad, no connection), seemed the right price (not £12 though
)i use to use armstrong, but they seemed to dissapear. Last replaced the ones on my 90 about 3 years ago with britpart OE ones, seem to be lasting fine.
I Do give my 90 a hard time when im offroading, i like to get two wheels on the same axle off the ground, even with that theres no signs of failure and they were about £12 for 98 300tdi 90
I Do give my 90 a hard time when im offroading, i like to get two wheels on the same axle off the ground, even with that theres no signs of failure and they were about £12 for 98 300tdi 90
waldershelf
Well-Known Member
I serviced a 90 for a guy and noticed one of the rear shocks had snapped at the bottom end. He had never noticed the difference.
miktdish
Guns n Chainsaws
wow, you can on mine, the car wallows about like a drunken Frenchman with his underpants full of part digested snails. Lurching would be a good descriptor in this instance. Not at all pleasant and very, very noticeable.
I also have an interesting clonk which I need to investigate.
Time is not on my side though as I have a job looming which will take me away for 3 weeks.
miktdish
Guns n Chainsaws
Changed the shock yesterday. The top of the shaft was half rusty indicating that it has fractured some time ago, it was just waiting to pop. Fortunately it was during slow speed manoeuvrings .... The top bushings (orange poly) were seized solid and the rear domed washer was on backwards (flat to the shock). The other side wasn't much better with a flat washer on the back, there's some cowboys out they .....
miktdish
Guns n Chainsaws
I got round to changing the shocks yesterday. Not to hard a job really. I jacked up the rear end, chocked all the wheels (both sides) and put a jack under the diff.
With the wheel off it's easy to see what needs to be done.
Both top and bottom nuts need a 19mm spanner and the obligatory WD40 to free up the rusty components.
First I removed the damaged nearside unit which was easy enough. The poly bushes were well seized into the top of the shock and the sleeve on the top mount needed to be cut off. Lots of swearing and cursing and flailing of hammers ....
With the bush cut off I saw that the rear domed washer was on backwards (flat side to the bushes), it was also seized on, however a tap with a hammer freed it up easily enough. A bit of emery and a handful of grease later she was all back together and the new shock installed. The bottom was easy, the supplied bushes and washers on the shock was compressed and the bottom shaft fits in the mount easily. Holding the shock body with a pipe wrench wrench was enough to allow us to wind on the bottom nut although I held the bottom of the shaft steady with a pair of mole grips to give it that final tighten.
The other side wasn't so badly seized although the previous owner had possibly lost the inner domed washer as when we took off the shock we say this was just a plain one.
I did notice that when the axle was lowered to allow us to insert the shock into lower mount, the spring came away from it's upper 'cups'. The last picture shows it half off however when the jack under the diff was lowered and the shock fully extended the springs were out of the cups by around 4"...
Need to do something about that I think ...
Have ordered new top washers from Rimmer ...
The Terrafirma shocks give a much smoother ride than the old ones, much less teeth jarring over the pot holes but slightly more 'roll' on corners etc. The old shock was really stiff to compress, the Terra's are much easier.
Overall an improvement.
With the wheel off it's easy to see what needs to be done.
Both top and bottom nuts need a 19mm spanner and the obligatory WD40 to free up the rusty components.
First I removed the damaged nearside unit which was easy enough. The poly bushes were well seized into the top of the shock and the sleeve on the top mount needed to be cut off. Lots of swearing and cursing and flailing of hammers ....
With the bush cut off I saw that the rear domed washer was on backwards (flat side to the bushes), it was also seized on, however a tap with a hammer freed it up easily enough. A bit of emery and a handful of grease later she was all back together and the new shock installed. The bottom was easy, the supplied bushes and washers on the shock was compressed and the bottom shaft fits in the mount easily. Holding the shock body with a pipe wrench wrench was enough to allow us to wind on the bottom nut although I held the bottom of the shaft steady with a pair of mole grips to give it that final tighten.
The other side wasn't so badly seized although the previous owner had possibly lost the inner domed washer as when we took off the shock we say this was just a plain one.
I did notice that when the axle was lowered to allow us to insert the shock into lower mount, the spring came away from it's upper 'cups'. The last picture shows it half off however when the jack under the diff was lowered and the shock fully extended the springs were out of the cups by around 4"...
Need to do something about that I think ...
Have ordered new top washers from Rimmer ...
The Terrafirma shocks give a much smoother ride than the old ones, much less teeth jarring over the pot holes but slightly more 'roll' on corners etc. The old shock was really stiff to compress, the Terra's are much easier.
Overall an improvement.
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jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
Well done the washers being on backwards accounts for all the horror stories I've ever heard and orange solid polys are only going to make it wrse IMO.
Many have moaned about cheap shocks but few when fitted correctly fail.
As for the spring we use 4 jubilee clips around the top spring mount and top coil. but make sure the bottom retaininng strap is not rusty and man enough.
Many have moaned about cheap shocks but few when fitted correctly fail.
As for the spring we use 4 jubilee clips around the top spring mount and top coil. but make sure the bottom retaininng strap is not rusty and man enough.
