sijwhite · Dec 5, 2012

So, here's a thing...

For ages I've been wondering what the left hand button on my speedo is for (see pic). Then I saw a dash description for a US FL1 and read that, in California at least, the button switches the temperature display between ºF and ºC.

The question of course is should there be an outside temperature display on my dash? And, if so, any ideas as to why I don't have one?

Yakko · Dec 5, 2012

Hi.

No, annoyingly there is no temperature display on UK models.

sijwhite · Dec 5, 2012

Yakko said:
Hi.

No, annoyingly there is no temperature display on UK models.

Ah well, at least it isn't broken

WLJayne · Dec 5, 2012

The lack of any form of trip computer is a bummer, my SE doesn't have one. Bit crap really as even focus's of the time had a basic one.

Singvogel · Dec 5, 2012

WLJayne said:
The lack of any form of trip computer is a bummer, my SE doesn't have one. Bit crap really as even focus's of the time had a basic one.

I wanted an outside temperature guage and a trip computer too. The HSE dosn't have anything like that either.

LR were not exactly at the forefront of driver info systems when they decided what to fit to the FL1s. My 1982 BMW had masses of stuff which even BMW no longer fit on current models.

I put over 350K on it so grew accustomed to an 'excess' of info and now misss having it.

I now have a 'Scanguage2' fitted permanently wired into the OBD socket on the Freelander which gives me a choice of 14 guages as well as a trip computer. It reads codes and can clear them too. It sits neatly at the bottom of the dials in front of the steering wheel.

Here's a link:
ScanGauge II - 3-in-one Automotive Computer (scangaugeII) - sgII - Linear Logic - Linear Logic product details - www.scangauge2.co.uk ( English Version )

I've also got a 'Wayfinder V7000' - which incorporates an altimeter, compass, and an inside/outside temperature guage which is usually fitted to gliders, which is pretty good. A bit over the top for most folks, but I like it.

Singvogel.

DD3 · Dec 5, 2012

Like the look of Scanguage - how have you hidden the wiring?

WLJayne · Dec 5, 2012

Yeh I'm also intruiged SV

.

Singvogel · Dec 5, 2012

As you know the OBD socket is on the passenger side beside the heater.

The Scanguage comes with a 1.5metre cable which has an OBD plug at one end and a telephone/computer type plug at the other.

The cable goes under the heater, and then up behind the glovebox, coming out under the steering wheel where there is a gap to allow the wheel to be raised or lowered. I didn't need any tape or cable-ties at all.

The Guage itself is fixed in position with heavy-duty double sided sticky pads that you get from DIY stores to fix mirror tiles. You could use sticky backed velcro if you wanted to have it quasi-portable to use in other vehicles.

Here's a couple of pics I just took showing my view of the extra instruments, and exactly where the cable comes through.
Note the snow guys!

The black electrical tape visible just above the light switch is to hold the Garmin cable in place - it need to be easily removeable as I use it in my other vehicles.

Singvogel.

DTO · Dec 5, 2012

You need to dust the steringwheel plastic top

WLJayne · Dec 5, 2012

SV you are just awful, and I think you need to go away. I'm so envious

!

Singvogel · Dec 5, 2012

DTO said:
You need to dust the steringwheel plastic top

That's on the list of 'things to do' - but it's well down the page!

S.

DD3 · Dec 5, 2012

Thanks for pics. Are then any issues with having the OBD port in constant use?

Singvogel · Dec 5, 2012

DD3 said:
Thanks for pics. Are then any issues with having the OBD port in constant use?

None at all that I'm aware of, and it's been left connected for nearly 2 years now.

Every couple of weeks I scan for stored fault codes and clear them if there any.

It automatically switches on when you start up - and goes off with the ECU when it shuts down after you switch off.

S.

WLJayne · Dec 5, 2012

How does it calculate MPG and such SV?

Singvogel · Dec 5, 2012

WLJayne said:
How does it calculate MPG and such SV?

You go through a set-up menu where you tell it the size of the fuel-tank, petrol or diesel, size of engine in 'cc' etc.

After the first time you've brimmed the tank and set it as full, all you subsequently have to do is input how many litres you've put in and it knows from the built-in trip mileage how far you've travelled using that amount.

There is awhole load of different data - todays mpg, current mpg, overall mpg since last re-set etc.

You can also put in the price per litre and it gives journey fuel-costs.

Clever little piece of kit.

You can display any 4 of the 14 guages at a time. In my pic - top left - you can see the air-intake temperature direct from the temp sensor in the short top turbo hose after the intercooler (signal comes from the MAF housing if it's a pre-facelift)

Top right is the coolant temp - I'd just started the engine a few minutes before and it was still heating up - the fbh was running too.

Bottom left is the alternator output voltage.

Bottom right is l/100km (which I prefer to mpg) which shows 9999 as the vehicle is stationary.

SV.

Nodge68 · Dec 5, 2012

There is a guy on one of the Rover forums that is/was developing a simpler MPG display to fit into the Rover digital dash clock hole which uses the same clock as the Freelander. Iirc it uses a speed sensor and an injector pulse to calculate mpg? Should look factory fitted when/if done.

Rover MPG Display Project (with pictures) - MG-Rover.org Forums

sijwhite · Dec 5, 2012

Singvogel said:
I wanted an outside temperature guage and a trip computer too. The HSE dosn't have anything like that either.

LR were not exactly at the forefront of driver info systems when they decided what to fit to the FL1s. My 1982 BMW had masses of stuff which even BMW no longer fit on current models. I put over 350K on it so grew accustomed to an 'excess' of info and now misss having it.

I now have a 'Scanguage2' fitted permanently wired into the OBD socket on the Freelander which gives me a choice of 14 guages as well as a trip computer. It reads codes and can clear them too. It sits neatly at the bottom of the dials in front of the steering wheel.

Here's a link:
ScanGauge II - 3-in-one Automotive Computer (scangaugeII) - sgII - Linear Logic - Linear Logic product details - www.scangauge2.co.uk ( English Version )

I've also got a 'Wayfinder V7000' - which incorporates an altimeter, compass, and an inside/outside temperature guage which is usually fitted to gliders, which is pretty good. A bit over the top for most folks, but I like it.

Singvogel.

I like the look of that so I've ordered one.

nickcc · Dec 5, 2012

WLJayne said:
The lack of any form of trip computer is a bummer, my SE doesn't have one. Bit crap really as even focus's of the time had a basic one.

On my Freestyle you use the right hand button on the instrument panel to change from total mileage to the trip, thought they were all the same.

booboodag · Dec 5, 2012

nice piece of kit but don't think the Scanguage2 will work in relationship to fault codes in any pre 2004 TD4s as they only went fully OB2 compliant in 2004.

Singvogel · Dec 5, 2012

booboodag said:
nice piece of kit but don't think the Scanguage2 will work in relationship to fault codes in any pre 2004 TD4s as they only went fully OB2 compliant in 2004.

Very good point booboodag.

I have a good friend who has one fitted to a 2002 TD4 and he doesnt get all the info - that would explain it.

SV.

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