It might be worth checking the grounding of the gauge and the wiring? I had a very similar issue with my new to me 110, the needle on the gauge would go right up into the red looking like it was overheating, but actually the issue seemed to be the lack of earth to the gauge. Not sure how it would've been originally but definitely seemed to sort out my issue adding in a new earth wire to the bulkhead.

The sensors are basically thermistors, and the gauge reads the resistance compared to ground (no resistance). So if its reading higher than you expect there could be more resistance somewhere in the system, potentially due to a bad connection or something like that.
 
And a brand new black sensor....this is where it went!
 

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and whats the actual temperature? if the dial doesnt match the sensor then it will give a false reading
 
Why don't you buy aftermarket gauge with sensor and put it in the top hose?
Or capillary gauge if you know what the thread in the housing is.
Saves buying endless sensors which are not compatible.
Have you tried earth on the gauge which someone previously suggested?
By the way even if you do find a sensor which seems to work you still need to check temperature independently to make sure it is correct.
We have fitted two gauges on the 200tdi.
 
Thanks. The gauge is a pukka LR one from Brookfields. My chum is taking the front end off on monday to check the wiring an fitting an earthing wire. Meanwhile I will drive around without looking at the Temp gauge.... Have checked the top hose and it is not overheating.......fingers crossed!
 
Nickincabin said:
And a brand new black sensor....this is where it went!
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That is exactly what my temp gauge looked like with the earth issue! Very quickly up into the red, when in reality the engine wasn't even up to temp at that point as someone had removed the thermostat :rolleyes: I knew right from the start mine wasn't actually overheating as I checked with an infrared thermometer.

If you have the capability I would take the gauge out and test it externally, eg supply it with 12V and connect to one of the sensors you have that is supposed to be the right temp range for the engine and see what it reads in known temperature water, say 80-90c
 
Just drove for over an hour down here in Devon. Needle way past the red🤣stopped once to check the overhead pipe: nearly cold, on arrival checked again pipe hot but not past hand touch...pal stripping out the front end to check wiring and fitting an earthing wire monday....will report back then 🤞
 
Nickincabin said:
Just drove for over an hour down here in Devon. Needle way past the red🤣stopped once to check the overhead pipe: nearly cold, on arrival checked again pipe hot but not past hand touch...pal stripping out the front end to check wiring and fitting an earthing wire monday....will report back then 🤞
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Overhead pipe?
 
The pipe from radiator....not a true petrol head tp use the right words: the one that if overheating would be pressurised and hard to squeeze🤣
 
Can you confirm that you have a good ground on the back of the gauge itself?

Stock 300tdi setup is this little black wire with a daisy chain of eyelets on it. If the eyelets are loose (on either the temp gauge OR the gauge where it's grounded onward) you will get the gauge go intermittently high.
 
julianf said:
Can you confirm that you have a good ground on the back of the gauge itself?

Stock 300tdi setup is this little black wire with a daisy chain of eyelets on it. If the eyelets are loose (on either the temp gauge OR the gauge where it's grounded onward) you will get the gauge go intermittently high.
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Crikey. Thanks, will brief my pal ref this on monday.....its defo not overheating per se🤣
 
Did you get to the bottom of this?

I've found that there are a bunch of "generic" pattern-part water temp senders, labelled up as an AMR3321 (look anywhere on eBay, and even Amazon these days). These may be cheap and with you next day, but aren't the same length as OEM and Britpart patterns -I had a photo knocking around somewhere that shows a difference in the length of the thermistor body; it's around 15-20mm or so.

I'm no expert, but what this could mean is that the temperature of the stat housing dominates the temperature of the thermistor than the coolant that's swishing through the system. Happy for someone smarter than me to correct that!

Alm.
 
Almonds said:
Did you get to the bottom of this?

I've found that there are a bunch of "generic" pattern-part water temp senders, labelled up as an AMR3321 (look anywhere on eBay, and even Amazon these days). These may be cheap and with you next day, but aren't the same length as OEM and Britpart patterns -I had a photo knocking around somewhere that shows a difference in the length of the thermistor body; it's around 15-20mm or so.

I'm no expert, but what this could mean is that the temperature of the stat housing dominates the temperature of the thermistor than the coolant that's swishing through the system. Happy for someone smarter than me to correct that!

Alm.
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Well. The latest episode: found a pukka landrover guru nearby. He ran checks on ....everything🤣he tested the 3 sensor plugs: original 1 (black) andt'other 2, 1 black 1 green. He stated the original had as near as a correct reading, the others way off. He briefed me that there is a THIRD colour available, white. He tweaked things tightened things, now running with the original in;(did a fairly long drive today incl plenty of hills and sitting in traffic, needle stayed firmly half way)🤣the plan if it misbehaves again he will fit a white one.....will keep the post going🤣🙏
 
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