Thanks for that have just been looking at the alternator found the fat one constant live and i can see 2 small ones 1 white and 1 brown i presume it will be the brown one i want but the problem i have now is getting to it there is loads of things in the way. Could you confirm if it is the brown or should i try them both. From what i can see they are both on a plug at the back but i can't seem to free it....Thanks again...Tony