300bhp/ton
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Lift it to do what?
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Welcome to the forum, this is the introduction thread. You're more likely to get a decent answer if you post in the relevant section .. 
What you just did is walk into a pub and asked the first person you met how to do something to your car.
What you just did is walk into a pub and asked the first person you met how to do something to your car.
300bhp/ton
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The picture was a joke. But the question still remains. Lift it to do what?
Well as an old series 3 she sages on the back quit abit. I just want somthing that will life her alittle! So she can be used of road if I wanted to! If that's makes sense?The picture was a joke. But the question still remains. Lift it to do what?
300bhp/ton
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Not really.
Understanding how the suspension works and the capabilities of a standard vehicle would make sense and serve you well.
There are lots of ways of lifting a vehicle. But I’m suspecting you have no real need for a lift. This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t, but it’s always best to understand the consequences of any modifications before you perform them.
What sort of off roading do you have planned?
What size and style tyres are you running/wanting to run?
What sort of budget are you working too?
What vehicle is it? 88, 109? Is it a pick up or a station wagon?
Do you want to tow or haul with the vehicle?
What is most important; off road, on road, handling, comfort?
1988smithy
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Somethings worn or unservicable if it's sagging. Personal opinion would be get a nail disco to lift above standard and keep the series original. Post your question in the series forum you'll get more help
300bhp/ton
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1988smithy
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Nowt wrong with leafers
Tidy!
Not really.
Understanding how the suspension works and the capabilities of a standard vehicle would make sense and serve you well.
There are lots of ways of lifting a vehicle. But I’m suspecting you have no real need for a lift. This doesn’t mean you shouldn’t, but it’s always best to understand the consequences of any modifications before you perform them.
What sort of off roading do you have planned?
What size and style tyres are you running/wanting to run?
What sort of budget are you working too?
What vehicle is it? 88, 109? Is it a pick up or a station wagon?
Do you want to tow or haul with the vehicle?
What is most important; off road, on road, handling, comfort?
Okay that make sense! It's a series 3 88 station wagen, there isnt really a budget but cheaper the bettet
I do tow with it already! I have road tyers on her at the moment but i am looking to get another set to be off roads ones! Which ones I don't know yet! Do you think if I get new suspension and shock absorbers for the back that would stop the sag?
What did you do the life yours?Nowt wrong with leafers
300bhp/ton
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Tbh sagging stock springs is reasonably rare unless they have been worked very hard.Okay that make sense! It's a series 3 88 station wagen, there isnt really a budget but cheaper the bettet
Do you think if I get new suspension and shock absorbers for the back that would stop the sag?
So in answer. Stock new springs should revitalise it and make is usable for most uses.
There are different spring packs however. Usually dictated by the number of leaves. As a rule the more springs the stiffer. Stiffer springs will generally tow and haul better, such has having 4 adults in the back. But will ride harder when empty and won’t flex as well off road.
A Station Wagon also weighs more than a truck cab, specifically the rear axle loading. So consider this when buying.
Stock springs should allow 7.50 x 16 or 235/85R15 tyres to be run without issue. Which is normally sufficient for most needs.
The main issue with leaf springs is they will stiffen up when left idle as they will rust solid. Regular use and carrying heavy loads helps avoid this problem.
There are also parabolic leaf springs available. These were first introduced for Land Rover on the 101FC. They use less leaves and the leaves aren’t in full contact with each other. So they don’t then to rust solid.
Parabolic springs should offer a much more compliant ride. However as a trade off may induce more body roll. Because they are softer and allow more roll. They can also tramp a little off road more easily. Also be warned, the quality of parabolic springs used to vary a lot. So do some research before buying. Also understand the different spring rates. Many people buy multi leaf parabolics which are very stiff. These may end up riding harder than stock leaf packs.
Worn bushes on the springs, hangers and chassis can all cause issues and are worth looking at replacing.
As for lifting a vehicle. As said, I suspect you don’t need too.
But you could fit longer spring hangers/shackles. Such as the military ones from a 1 Ton 109. The problem here is it will change the pinion angle of the diff and may cause problems. But might not. The 109 has extended spring mounts at the other ends of the springs as well as the longer hangers. You could fit them too, but will be custom and require welding.
You could fit longer/stiffer springs. This will give a lift too. But too much and you may also encounter diff pinion angle issues. And may end up with reduced travel off road. Most parabolic springs will give a mild lift in this way.
Other ways of lifting could include performing a spring over axle lift. The stock leaf springs mount to the bottom of the axle tubes. Many other vehicles, including latter leaf sprung Land Rovers mount the leaf spring on top of the axle tube. But this will require other custom work to achieve.
300bhp/ton
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Btw - stock Series have very short shocks. This ultimately limits wheel travel/flex not the springs. Rocky Mountain Spares do or did a kit with +2” shocks and parabolic springs. This will give more down travel. But if you off road a lot you will find out under compression it will bend the springs the wrong way and can cause failure. Extended bump stops should really be used. But many people don’t and get away with it.
300bhp/ton
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Mine is quite modded. But runs essentially stock height suspension.
Full build thread here:
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/200tdi-s3-88-pas-long-travel-suspension-rebuild.298104/
Thanks for your help
really appreciate it
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Can't remember seeing a lifted leafer which still had leafsNowt wrong with leafers
