In article <c1d86m$1gq95j$1@ID-155023.news.uni-berlin.de>, CT
<URL:mailto:ukrm@siteline.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> "Ginge" <gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1aa430a87685be769897b4@news.clara.net...
> > In article <ant2313382e1Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
> > > In article <8rb_b.5782$4B3.53188747@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> pseudoplatypus
> > > <URL:mailto:platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The plod go out looking for drunks at xmas. Other times of year,
> detection
> > > > is left to the safety cameras. I thought that would have been
> obvious.
> > >
> > > Obvious - but completely wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > Check your spelling, bloody useless drunk driver
> > > >
> > > > So, how long have you been trying to use English for, sonny?
> > > >
> > >
> > > That should read:
> > >
> > > "So, for how long have you been trying to use English, sonny?"
> > >
> > > Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
> >
> > But in both cases the sentence ends with "sonny".
> >
> > HTH.
>
> I suspect both you and Burnt have been *whoosh*ed.
>
> "Prepositions are not words with which to end sentences."

Oh dear...

Not a fan of irony, then? Or just keen to show how jolly bombastic you are?



Allan Bennett
Not a fan of non-rhetorical usenet

--

 
In article <f15k30dd35tdsgdm9tg0icva0ebccqr0rm@4ax.com>,
<URL:mailto:deadmail@burnt.org.uk> wrote:
> Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> <ant2313382e1Novh@freeserve.co.uk>:
>
> > In article <8rb_b.5782$4B3.53188747@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> > pseudoplatypus <URL:mailto:platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The plod go out looking for drunks at xmas. Other times of year,
> > > detection is left to the safety cameras. I thought that would have
> > > been obvious.
> >
> > Obvious - but completely wrong.
> >
> > >
> > > > Check your spelling, bloody useless drunk driver
> > >
> > > So, how long have you been trying to use English for, sonny?
> > >
> > That should read:
> >
> > "So, for how long have you been trying to use English, sonny?"
> >
> > Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
> >
> >
> > Allan Bennett Not a fan of pseuds in glass houses
>
> Gosh, you're smart.
>
> Care to work out how to use a sig seperator?

No thanks. I prefer the more technically correct 'separator'.

Actually, though, I have an atomagical one - but it ain't clever enough to
formulate original stuff based on the content of the post - and I don't use
sigs, they're bad for your health.



Allan Bennett
Not a fan of burnt offerings

--
Warning: sigs can kill

 
In article <MPG.1aa430a87685be769897b4@news.clara.net>, Ginge
<URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant2313382e1Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
> > In article <8rb_b.5782$4B3.53188747@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> > pseudoplatypus <URL:mailto:platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The plod go out looking for drunks at xmas. Other times of year,
> > > detection is left to the safety cameras. I thought that would have
> > > been obvious.
> >
> > Obvious - but completely wrong.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Check your spelling, bloody useless drunk driver
> > >
> > > So, how long have you been trying to use English for, sonny?
> > >
> >
> > That should read:
> >
> > "So, for how long have you been trying to use English, sonny?"
> >
> > Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
>
> But in both cases the sentence ends with "sonny".

Cor! You write good, dunnit?

1. "Prepositions are not words to end sentences with." is an example of
irony. In your case, wasted irony.

2. Try to use punctuation correctly: ie "But, in both cases..."

3. Try to understand sentence formation - and for what commas can be used -
got that, sonny? (expl: both sentences end with ", sonny", not just "sonny".

4. And never start a sentence with a conjunction.


Let that be a lesson to you.


Allan Bennett
Not a fan of corrective institutions




--

 
In article <ant2317245a7Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
> In article <MPG.1aa430a87685be769897b4@news.clara.net>, Ginge
> <URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:
> > But in both cases the sentence ends with "sonny".
>
> Cor! You write good, dunnit?

<aussie accent>
Best 'ad to say it though, but.
</aussie accent>

> 1. "Prepositions are not words to end sentences with." is an example of
> irony. In your case, wasted irony.
>
> 2. Try to use punctuation correctly: ie "But, in both cases..."

It seems you imagine my speech would pause after the word 'but', is that
the case? I wrote that line exactly as I'd say the sentence, I'd not
pause after the word 'but'.


> 3. Try to understand sentence formation - and for what commas can be used -
> got that, sonny? (expl: both sentences end with ", sonny", not just "sonny".

I can see how if I'd written something along the lines of - 'The sky is
blue. But, sometimes clouds obscure the sky.' the word 'But,' would be
correct, in that context it sounds correct.

In a single sentence I'd not make a pause, there's no point in doing so,
it's a one line interruption.

> 4. And never start a sentence with a conjunction.
>
>
> Let that be a lesson to you.

Boring, boring, boring.

You and Des should meet up.
 
joe parkin <joeparkinchinese@btinternet.com> wrote ...

>> <sorry to be agreeing with Sir Tony mode ON> You can let off a bomb in
>> Trafalgar Square, and depending on chance, and the time at which you let
>> it off, no one gets hurt.
>>
>> A 'victimless crime' ?
>>
>> Drunk driving is only 'victimless' as long as you're lucky enough not to
>> wipe someone out.

> That argument goes for any type of driving, driving is an accident
> waiting to happen, a pedestrian stepping out etc. Drink driving increases
> the risk of it happening but so does driving more miles, or driving
> tired, or lighting a tab etc.

Erm, wrong. 'Driving' in itself is not 'a crime'. So therefore, it can't
be 'a victimless crime'.

--
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|BONY#48 ANORAK#11
Yamaha YZF-R1, FJR1300i, GSX1400i, 996i (for sale)
 
Ginge <gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote ...

{ snip }

> You and Des should meet up.

Why, so that I can kick him up and down the newsgroup ? Come on, Ginge: my
spelling and grammar flames are _class_.

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|BONY#48 ANORAK#11
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In article <gbtpg1-724.ln1@zeouane.org>, genuine_froggie@zeouane.org
says...
> > That argument goes for any type of driving, driving is an accident
> > waiting to happen, a pedestrian stepping out etc. Drink driving increases
> > the risk of it happening but so does driving more miles, or driving
> > tired, or lighting a tab etc.
>
> Erm, wrong. 'Driving' in itself is not 'a crime'. So therefore, it can't
> be 'a victimless crime'.
>
>
That's the problem then, driving while tired, or lighting up or
whatever should be a crime instead of speeding perhaps. I know when I
speed I am more aware than I am while doing slow speeds, (in a car
anyway)
--
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wrote
>joe parkin <joeparkinchinese@btinternet.com> wrote ...
>
>>> <sorry to be agreeing with Sir Tony mode ON> You can let off a bomb in
>>> Trafalgar Square, and depending on chance, and the time at which you let
>>> it off, no one gets hurt.
>>>
>>> A 'victimless crime' ?
>>>
>>> Drunk driving is only 'victimless' as long as you're lucky enough not to
>>> wipe someone out.
>
>> That argument goes for any type of driving, driving is an accident
>> waiting to happen, a pedestrian stepping out etc. Drink driving increases
>> the risk of it happening but so does driving more miles, or driving
>> tired, or lighting a tab etc.
>
>Erm, wrong. 'Driving' in itself is not 'a crime'. So therefore, it can't
>be 'a victimless crime'.

It has been a long time since you have been a UK resident and it shows.



--
steve auvache
 
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:27:54 -0000, Ginge
<gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> blethered:

>In article <ant2317245a7Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
<snip>
>> Let that be a lesson to you.
>
>Boring, boring, boring.
>
>You and Des should meet up.

Ooh I say, that's a bit harsh surely? <g>
 
In article <MPG.1aa456879e67b0dc9897b6@news.clara.net>, Ginge
<URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant2317245a7Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
> > In article <MPG.1aa430a87685be769897b4@news.clara.net>, Ginge
> > <URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:
> > > But in both cases the sentence ends with "sonny".
> >
> > Cor! You write good, dunnit?
>
> <aussie accent>
> Best 'ad to say it though, but.
> </aussie accent>
>
> > 1. "Prepositions are not words to end sentences with." is an example of
> > irony. In your case, wasted irony.
> >
> > 2. Try to use punctuation correctly: ie "But, in both cases..."
>
> It seems you imagine my speech would pause after the word 'but', is that
> the case? I wrote that line exactly as I'd say the sentence, I'd not
> pause after the word 'but'.

I did not imagine anything. Just because you don't talk proper doesn't mean
that not writing proper should be a natural consequence.

>
> > 3. Try to understand sentence formation - and for what commas can be used
> > - got that, sonny? (expl: both sentences end with ", sonny", not just
> > "sonny".
>
> I can see how if I'd written something along the lines of - 'The sky is
> blue. But, sometimes clouds obscure the sky.' the word 'But,' would be
> correct, in that context it sounds correct.

Invoke article 4:
4. And never start a sentence with a conjunction.

Rules for correct written English are not governed by what 'sounds correct'
to you.


> In a single sentence I'd not make a pause, there's no point in doing so,
> it's a one line interruption.

Errrk! Could you repeat that, using sensible punctuation, so that it makes
sense to the reader rather than just the speaker?

Perhaps not.

> > 4. And never start a sentence with a conjunction.
> >
> >
> > Let that be a lesson to you.
>
> Boring, boring, boring.

Ah! The simple, cheap, throwaway line. Always useful when you have no lucid
argument to offer.


Allan Bennett
Not a fan of bad examples

--

 
In article <ant2320013a0Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
> In article <MPG.1aa456879e67b0dc9897b6@news.clara.net>, Ginge

> > It seems you imagine my speech would pause after the word 'but', is that
> > the case? I wrote that line exactly as I'd say the sentence, I'd not
> > pause after the word 'but'.
>
> I did not imagine anything. Just because you don't talk proper doesn't mean
> that not writing proper should be a natural consequence.

How do you know I don't talk properly, have we met? :)

When on Usenet I generally reply in a quickly typed, highly informal,
conversational style. I never spell-check and I very rarely proof read -
there are better things to waste my time upon. I find the informal
approach lends itself to the kind of lively banter often seen in
uk.rec.motorcycles, the newsgroup where I'm currently reading this
delightful cross-post.

> > In a single sentence I'd not make a pause, there's no point in doing so,
> > it's a one line interruption.
>
> Errrk! Could you repeat that, using sensible punctuation, so that it makes
> sense to the reader rather than just the speaker?
>
> Perhaps not.

Treat it as though I was rudely interupting your diatribe, butting in
without drawing a single breath.

"Anyhow, I see no point in carrying on with this...

....At least not until I find my ingerlish teecher and sew hymn fer knot
teaching me write.... I were just a GCSE guinea-pig, for crying out
loud... They aint not teached us nuffink!"

 
Allan Bennett wrote:

> In article <f15k30dd35tdsgdm9tg0icva0ebccqr0rm@4ax.com>,
> <URL:mailto:deadmail@burnt.org.uk> wrote:
>> Allan Bennett <albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> <ant2313382e1Novh@freeserve.co.uk>:
>>
>> > In article <8rb_b.5782$4B3.53188747@news-text.cableinet.net>,
>> > pseudoplatypus <URL:mailto:platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The plod go out looking for drunks at xmas. Other times of year,
>> > > detection is left to the safety cameras. I thought that would have
>> > > been obvious.
>> >
>> > Obvious - but completely wrong.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > > Check your spelling, bloody useless drunk driver
>> > >
>> > > So, how long have you been trying to use English for, sonny?
>> > >
>> > That should read:
>> >
>> > "So, for how long have you been trying to use English, sonny?"
>> >
>> > Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
>> >
>> >
>> > Allan Bennett Not a fan of pseuds in glass houses
>>
>> Gosh, you're smart.
>>
>> Care to work out how to use a sig seperator?
>
> No thanks. I prefer the more technically correct 'separator'.
>
> Actually, though, I have an atomagical one

ITYM automagical

>- but it ain't clever enough to
> formulate original stuff based on the content of the post - and I don't
> use sigs, they're bad for your health.
>
>
>
> Allan Bennett
> Not a fan of burnt offerings

That would be a sig

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Allan Bennett wrote:

> In article <MPG.1aa456879e67b0dc9897b6@news.clara.net>, Ginge
> <URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:

<snip>
>>
>> Boring, boring, boring.
>
> Ah! The simple, cheap, throwaway line. Always useful when you have no
> lucid argument to offer.

But *oh* so true in your case
>
> Allan Bennett
> Not a fan of bad examples

That would be the sig you don't use again

> --

That, on the other hand, would be the sig separator that is
a) Broken
b) In the wrong place.


--
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Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7
Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
 
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:47:01 +0000, Allan Bennett
<albenito@eclipse2k.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Ah! The simple, cheap, throwaway line. Always useful when you have no lucid
>argument to offer.

I say, this is jolly interesting.

Popcorn, anyone?

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
 
Andy Bonwick wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:10:50 GMT, "pseudoplatypus"
> <platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
>
>>Sir.Tony wrote:
>>> "pseudoplatypus" <platypus@ukrm.org> wrote in message
>>> news:ZaTZb.5071$dU.45695164@news-text.cableinet.net...
>>>> Sir.Tony wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > What complete rubbish. A drunk driver on the road is like a loose
>>>> > cannon. Every one is at risk when a drunk driver is on the road.
>>>>
>>>> Bollocks. I was completely ****faced driving back from Wales this
>>>> evening - sprog was falling about laughing at the way I couldn't
>>>> stop running onto the rumble strip on the edge of the M48 - but I
>>>> didn't hit anything, didn't kill anyone, didn't even break the
>>>> speed limit. Victimless crime. Stop being such an old woman, you
>>>> pathetic self-panicker.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Bring back hanging. How can have the nerve to drink & drive AND COME
>>> ON HERE AND BOAST ABOUT IT?
>>
>>It's groovy. I *like* it.
>>
>>What's the matter with you? *Someone* has to do it...
>
> Oddly enough I was chatting about drink driving "the morning after"
> to another poster on ukrm and we both agreed we'd done it a few
> times. Nobody was hurt so why ****ing worry?

I've had it happen a few times that I've had to be helped out to the car.
What I do nowadays is, when I start to feel it a bit, I go out to the car
and sit in, and have the waitress bring the drinks out to me. Any time I
need a refill, I just toot the horn.

--
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VN800 Drifter, R80RT, Z200
DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19
BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89 FTB#11
BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15


 
"pseudoplatypus" <platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
>
> I've had it happen a few times that I've had to be helped out to the car.
> What I do nowadays is, when I start to feel it a bit, I go out to the car
> and sit in, and have the waitress bring the drinks out to me. Any time I
> need a refill, I just toot the horn.

Does the waitress always cum when you push your horn.

--
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BOTAFOT#128
CBR1000FL The Honda Fatblade
Yam RS200 Ring-a-Ding
 
mups wrote:
> "pseudoplatypus" <platypus@ukrm.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've had it happen a few times that I've had to be helped out to the
>> car. What I do nowadays is, when I start to feel it a bit, I go out
>> to the car and sit in, and have the waitress bring the drinks out to
>> me. Any time I need a refill, I just toot the horn.
>
> Does the waitress always cum when you push your horn.

When I'm that drunk, pushing it is all I can manage.

--
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VN800 Drifter, R80RT, Z200
DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19
BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89 FTB#11
BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15


 
In article <MPG.1aa4853475f065779897b7@news.clara.net>, Ginge
<URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant2320013a0Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
> > In article <MPG.1aa456879e67b0dc9897b6@news.clara.net>, Ginge
>
> > > It seems you imagine my speech would pause after the word 'but', is
> > > that the case? I wrote that line exactly as I'd say the sentence,
> > > I'd not pause after the word 'but'.
> >
> > I did not imagine anything. Just because you don't talk proper doesn't
> > mean that not writing proper should be a natural consequence.
>
> How do you know I don't talk properly,

You claim that the way you write is how you speak: "I wrote that line exactly
as I'd say the sentence..."

>
> When on Usenet I generally reply in a quickly typed, highly informal,
> conversational style. I never spell-check and I very rarely proof read -
> there are better things to waste my time upon. I find the informal
> approach lends itself to the kind of lively banter often seen in
> uk.rec.motorcycles, the newsgroup where I'm currently reading this
> delightful cross-post.

Thanks for sharing that with us. It's always rewarding when first
impressions are proved accurate.

>
> > > In a single sentence I'd not make a pause, there's no point in doing
> > > so, it's a one line interruption.
> >
> > Errrk! Could you repeat that, using sensible punctuation, so that it
> > makes sense to the reader rather than just the speaker?
> >
> > Perhaps not.

In article <MPG.1aa4853475f065779897b7@news.clara.net>, Ginge
<URL:mailto:gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> wrote a few words
illustrating emphatically that he doesn't talk properly:

> Treat it as though I was rudely interupting your diatribe, butting in
> without drawing a single breath.

Thanks for sharing that with us. It's always rewarding when first
impressions are proved accurate.

>
> "Anyhow, I see no point in carrying on with this...
>
> ...At least not until I find my ingerlish teecher and sew hymn fer knot
> teaching me write.... I were just a GCSE guinea-pig, for crying out
> loud... They aint not teached us nuffink!"

Thanks for sharing that with us. It's always rewarding when first
impressions are proved accurate.



Allan Bennett
Not a fan of repetition
Not a fan of repetition

--

 
Allan Bennett wrote:
<snip>
>
> Thanks for sharing that with us. It's always rewarding when first
> impressions are proved accurate.

You know, I'd never realised how true that is.

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:39:10 +0000, Halla
<halla@drunkenbastards.spam.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:27:54 -0000, Ginge
><gingeSPAMDECOY@stopthevoices.org.uk> blethered:
>
>>In article <ant2317245a7Novh@freeserve.co.uk>, Allan Bennett says...
><snip>
>>> Let that be a lesson to you.
>>
>>Boring, boring, boring.
>>
>>You and Des should meet up.
>
>Ooh I say, that's a bit harsh surely? <g>

but, reading the rest of the thread, fair, I think you'd agree.

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