cheers lads, i was toppin me oil up an some old fella walked past stopped and started gabbin to me about lannys, sayin that my one should have 2 oil and 2 fuel filters, thought i was goin mad when i couldnt find them, saw my sediment filter when boot floor came out at weekend wish i had done it then while it was easy to get to, i got a set of new britpart filters of ebay for 13quid delivered iirc so not to bad for oil, air and fuel will try paddocks next time. thanks again