ericthered

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Backlash from an overheating problem changed thermostat,water pump , radiator and expansion bottle cap or and borrowed a mates viscous fan,but after 5 miles temp gauge still red lines and then drops back to normal,the heater blowing warm not really hot and then cold , AIRLOCK? i park up now cos scared to do any damage , so how do you fill up the water and get rid of all the air ,or is there somting else wrong,could it be minor head damage ,this got replaced last september skimmed the lot .
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Eric
 
hi ericthered,

sounds similar to mine when i had a sticking thermostate.

just keep bleeding it took a while when i was doing mine


mark
 
hi ericthered,

sounds similar to mine when i had a sticking thermostate.

just keep bleeding it took a while when i was doing mine


mark

Ok here's how I bleed the bastids, header cap off, thermostat plastic cap out and replace it wif new one cos there ****e, radiator plastic plug out as well. Fill yer radiator as much as you can squishing yer radiator bottom hose to get rid of any air, use hot water it's easier, fill next through the thermostat plug untill it comes out the radiator then replace the plug, wif new one. fill up the thermostat now as much as you can then start filling through the header tank until it starts running out the thermostat. if it's completly filled when you squish the bottom and top rad hose you will be aware it's full by the feel.

Start the engine now, cap still off, and keep an eye on the water levels, make sure your heater controls are set to hot, run the engine keeping a check on the hoses they should be starting to pump the water around the heater hoses, bring the revs up to bring the temp guage up and once the thermostat opens you should see a bit of water flow, by now your heaters should be working, fit the header cap and run right up to pressure test it.

If you have a head problem then at some point in this process before the cap is fitted it will be chucking your water out. Give it a good test close to base in case you get problems and take hot water with you to top it back up in case.

The only thing that comes to mind here is that you have fitted the thermostat the wrong way around, the deep bit goes into the engine, thus when the engine, which heats the water opens it it sends the water around the engine. The wrong way means it only opens under severe temp once the engine heat is transmitted through the body of the thermostat but once the water circulates it shuts it immediately, and since the wax pellet part is at the wrong side only severe temp will open it again, by this time you have chucked your water out and air locked it, no heaters.
 
Ok here's how I bleed the bastids, header cap off, thermostat plastic cap out and replace it wif new one cos there ****e, radiator plastic plug out as well. Fill yer radiator as much as you can squishing yer radiator bottom hose to get rid of any air, use hot water it's easier, fill next through the thermostat plug untill it comes out the radiator then replace the plug, wif new one. fill up the thermostat now as much as you can then start filling through the header tank until it starts running out the thermostat. if it's completly filled when you squish the bottom and top rad hose you will be aware it's full by the feel.

Start the engine now, cap still off, and keep an eye on the water levels, make sure your heater controls are set to hot, run the engine keeping a check on the hoses they should be starting to pump the water around the heater hoses, bring the revs up to bring the temp guage up and once the thermostat opens you should see a bit of water flow, by now your heaters should be working, fit the header cap and run right up to pressure test it.

If you have a head problem then at some point in this process before the cap is fitted it will be chucking your water out. Give it a good test close to base in case you get problems and take hot water with you to top it back up in case.

The only thing that comes to mind here is that you have fitted the thermostat the wrong way around, the deep bit goes into the engine, thus when the engine, which heats the water opens it it sends the water around the engine. The wrong way means it only opens under severe temp once the engine heat is transmitted through the body of the thermostat but once the water circulates it shuts it immediately, and since the wax pellet part is at the wrong side only severe temp will open it again, by this time you have chucked your water out and air locked it, no heaters.

Also make sure the small hose from the thermostat is not blocked, other than that I'm fooked at the minute.
 
just chuck the plastic filler plugs and replace with domestic radiator bleed valves - same thread, made of brass (so they wont break) and build in air bleed:D.

best £1.50 yu will spend on your motor.
 

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