tomcat59alan
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Kindly keep your toilet habits to yourself, if I'm doing a load of logs ! My God can you not just say backing one out.
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cornishboater
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Mine does that if I leave it a standard height when parked, climbs up all on its own
Grrrrrr
Technician, Bodgit & Scarper Ltd
Mine does that if I leave it a standard height when parked, climbs up all on its own
It goes up when parked? That ain't right! Sure it isn't the front going down? That would fit with a dodgy height sensor.
cornishboater
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It always has, the back end goes skywards when parked for a while, as soon as you start the car it immediately goes back to standard height. It doesn't do it when left parked in access mode. Even after the new EAS ECU, valve block, driver pack and compressor it has remained the same so I haven't been overly bothered with it rearing its arse. This is with the timer relay removed also so I assume air must be bypassing something although after replacing all of the above one would have thunked it would have changed, such is life with a P38
It always has, the back end goes skywards when parked for a while, as soon as you start the car it immediately goes back to standard height. It doesn't do it when left parked in access mode. Even after the new EAS ECU, valve block, driver pack and compressor it has remained the same so I haven't been overly bothered with it rearing its arse. This is with the timer relay removed also so I assume air must be bypassing something although after replacing all of the above one would have thunked it would have changed, such is life with a P38
Put the timer relay back in.
cornishboater
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Hi Wammers, I thought that with the timer out it was supposed to stay put? I took it out to avoid battery drain originally although after replacing the BECM that issue seems to have disappeared.
Well look at it from this point of view. You have a P38 that sits exactly at standard height. You go to the local builders merchants and load the back with a couple of dozen flags sand and cement. This causes the rear to depress. When you start up the EAS inflates the rear bags to overcome the weight. You get home and unload and the arse end goes up in the air. You shut the tailgate and it still stays up in the air, it's the same the morning after. I wonder why that is.
tomcat59alan
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Perhaps he's got a couple of very fat passengers in the back, then they get out.Well look at it from this point of view. You have a P38 that sits exactly at standard height. You go to the local builders merchants and load the back with a couple of dozen flags sand and cement. This causes the rear to depress. When you start up the EAS inflates the rear bags to overcome the weight. You get home and unload and the arse end goes up in the air. You shut the tailgate and it still stays up in the air, it's the same the morning after. I wonder why that is.
Perhaps he's got a couple of very fat passengers in the back, then they get out.
Much the same scenario. The self level delay timer is there for a reason.
Grrrrrr
Technician, Bodgit & Scarper Ltd
It always has, the back end goes skywards when parked for a while, as soon as you start the car it immediately goes back to standard height. It doesn't do it when left parked in access mode. Even after the new EAS ECU, valve block, driver pack and compressor it has remained the same so I haven't been overly bothered with it rearing its arse. This is with the timer relay removed also so I assume air must be bypassing something although after replacing all of the above one would have thunked it would have changed, such is life with a P38
Well look at it from this point of view. You have a P38 that sits exactly at standard height. You go to the local builders merchants and load the back with a couple of dozen flags sand and cement. This causes the rear to depress. When you start up the EAS inflates the rear bags to overcome the weight. You get home and unload and the arse end goes up in the air. You shut the tailgate and it still stays up in the air, it's the same the morning after. I wonder why that is.
I thought he was saying that he gets out and it is level and in the morning the arse is in the air but nothing has been taken out or done?
No he says the timer relay is removed.
Grrrrrr
Technician, Bodgit & Scarper Ltd
Yes but that should freeze it so it makes the arse going in the air even more of a mystery.
Inlet valve maybe leaking.
Wazzajnr
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I suppose it depends on the definition of "new valve block"
If it is a reconditioned one and not been done correctly it's a possibility. If it's a brand new one, you would hope not but never rule anything out.
Is the back ACTUALLY going up or is it just the front sinking to the stops and making the back look high?
cornishboater
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No Wazza, the front stays where it is and the back rises, as I mentioned only when left on motorway or standard never on access. After Wammers mentioned about the timer I replaced it and it still does it, it always has, so not really bothered. This is with no load removed, not even the fat personnel As Grrrr mentioned I thought that with the timer out that it was supposed to freeze the thing. I did the rebuild of a second hand block and resurfaced all of the valve ends and NRV's and pressure tested where I could but ya never know, strange that the issue would be the same for the original and the refurbed valve block but I guess s..t happens
As Grrrr mentioned I thought that with the timer out that it was supposed to freeze the thing. I did the rebuild of a second hand block and resurfaced all of the valve ends and NRV's and pressure tested where I could but ya never know, strange that the issue would be the same for the original and the refurbed valve block but I guess s..t happens
Wazzajnr
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I'd have to look at the schematic to see where air could be getting to the rear bags. I guess if it doesn't cause an issue, fine. I would be slightly concerned about the bags being fully inflated all the time it's not being driven. More opportunity for something to make its home there and then sit under the fold of the bag wearing it away!No Wazza, the front stays where it is and the back rises, as I mentioned only when left on motorway or standard never on access. After Wammers mentioned about the timer I replaced it and it still does it, it always has, so not really bothered. This is with no load removed, not even the fat personnel
cornishboater
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The only place that I can see on the schematics that it can fill the rear is from the valve, the air logic is fairly simple. As I said, it really doesn't bother me too much and as I leave it on access when parked it doesn't move at all, seems odd really, one would have thought the valve would still leak at that height too!
cornishboater
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10-4 on that one, the only thing is finding it
Grrrrrr
Technician, Bodgit & Scarper Ltd
10-4 on that one, the only thing is finding it
Has anything been screwed under the car that could have gone through into the loom somewhere?
