gfromleeds

gfromleeds

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ive got a dse and its got a major problems
firstly its got no power takes ages to get up enough revs to go for second gear, its pumping bucket loads of thick white smoke out and when i say bucket loads i meen you cant see a dam thing out the back window or any were else for about 15 yards
it not steam cos it literaly takes minutes to clear after you turn the engine off and it has a smell of oil in. it plus no water loss
and its realy slow to rev takes about 2 seconds to get to red line
its ticks over smokey but smooth, and revs slow and very smokey but smooth ie.. no coughing / missing ect...
seems to have lost/used alot of oil but i aint checked it for over a month so not certain about that
also when it went it sounded like a screeming cat was in the engine when i reved it but that sound seems to have gone now
im thinking turbo but would that be black smoke?
any help?
 
Sounds like Turbo...

Check all the hoses as they do delaminate inside, remove the intercooler and check this as they get sludged up.

If it has used a lot of oil, I'd say a Turbo seal/bearing may have failed, pumping oil into the exhaust causing the white smoke (oil in combustion is blue - oil in hot exhaust is white)...

Screaming is the Turbo Bearings failing due to lack of lubrication....

I'd put money on a knackered Turbo unit...sorry!
 
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Saint.V8 said:
Sounds like Turbo...

Check all the hoses as they do delaminate inside, remove the intercooler and check this as they get sludged up.

If it has used a lot of oil, I'd say a Turbo seal/bearing may have failed, pumping oil into the exhaust causing the white smoke (oil in combustion is blue - oil in hot exhaust is white)...

Screaming is the Turbo Bearings failing due to lack of lubrication....

Check the pipes first yer never know your luck....but I'd put money on a knackered Turbo unit...sorry!
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Sounds like turbo to me too:(
 
Saint.V8 said:
Sounds like Turbo...

Check all the hoses as they do delaminate inside, remove the intercooler and check this as they get sludged up.

If it has used a lot of oil, I'd say a Turbo seal/bearing may have failed, pumping oil into the exhaust causing the white smoke (oil in combustion is blue - oil in hot exhaust is white)...

Screaming is the Turbo Bearings failing due to lack of lubrication....

Check the pipes first yer never know your luck....but I'd put money on a knackered Turbo unit...sorry!
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Beat me to it, that would be my best guess also
 
Saint.V8 said:
Sounds like Turbo...

Check all the hoses as they do delaminate inside, remove the intercooler and check this as they get sludged up.

If it has used a lot of oil, I'd say a Turbo seal/bearing may have failed, pumping oil into the exhaust causing the white smoke (oil in combustion is blue - oil in hot exhaust is white)...

Screaming is the Turbo Bearings failing due to lack of lubrication....

I'd put money on a knackered Turbo unit...sorry!
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its not the hoses ive checked them over and even ran it with the intercooler to engine pipe disconected and its exactly the same
plus it went suddenly no warning or **** all
was quite abit of oil in the pipes but just put that down to them been 12 years old
any way to test it cos them ****ers aint cheep
 
gfromleeds said:
its not the hoses ive checked them over and even ran it with the intercooler to engine pipe disconected and its exactly the same
plus it went suddenly no warning or **** all
was quite abit of oil in the pipes but just put that down to them been 12 years old
any way to test it cos them ****ers aint cheep
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I wouldn't know how to test without specialist gear - The Wammer is pretty good on Diesels - he's on hols at the moment and I don't know how much internet time he can muster....Datatek is pretty clued up on the Diesel too...

A quick blast on the 'Bay found these...

Range Rover P38 Diesel Turbo (with manifold) | eBay

Range Rover P38 BMW 525 325 Omega Diesel Turbo And Manifold | eBay

Range Rover P38 97 DSE BMW DIESEL TURBO & Manifold FREE UK MAINLAND POSTAGE ONLY | eBay

Among a few more.....

Sorry Bud...:(
 
Usually! Normally the bearings/seals fail and you get loads of movement in the shaft, the impeller can eat into the housing in bad cases, then you get metal going thru your engine:( the engine pumps oil into the inlet and exhaust, they can then run on their own oil and grenade themselves! When they're really bad. This one sounds not too far from that!
 
Check it spins freely and there should hardly be any up down or side to side play, but without a dti and the measurements its down to guess work, my guess if its run the bearing, is it won spin very well, should feel really smooth
 
Saint.V8 said:
I wouldn't know how to test without specialist gear - The Wammer is pretty good on Diesels - he's on hols at the moment and I don't know how much internet time he can muster....Datatek is pretty clued up on the Diesel too...

A quick blast on the 'Bay found these...

Range Rover P38 Diesel Turbo (with manifold) | eBay

Range Rover P38 BMW 525 325 Omega Diesel Turbo And Manifold | eBay

Range Rover P38 97 DSE BMW DIESEL TURBO & Manifold FREE UK MAINLAND POSTAGE ONLY | eBay

Among a few more.....

Sorry Bud...:(
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Cheers but dint realy want a second hand one cos there all abount the same age so will probably be on its last legs too
 
Chrisfrain2007 said:
Check it spins freely and there should hardly be any up down or side to side play, but without a dti and the measurements its down to guess work, my guess if its run the bearing, is it won spin very well, should feel really smooth
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Sounds that bad you won't need a dti! Mine only smokes a bit, is down on power and it's very noticeable by hand!
 
gfromleeds said:
Cheers but dint realy want a second hand one cos there all abount the same age so will probably be on its last legs too
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That's my theory hence looking at recons, midland turbo is close to me so gonna give them a try, they seem to have a good reputation
 
Depends on lots of things. Have you been thrashing it cos it's down on power? Cos that'll finish it very quickly. Has the oil been changed regularly, could be blocked oil feed! Etc etc
 
i replaced a transit van turbo not so long ago and it fell apart in my hand and this had only had a new engine 2 months bfor and the turbo was checked then so they dont take long to eat them selfs. Aslo if you relly want to scare youself look up run away diesel engine.
 
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