dantheman4.6
New Member
is the 4.6 chain or cambelt ?
jdennington
New Member
Chain so no worry about a cambelt snap. The chains do stretch over time and benefit from replacement of both this and the timing gears. What mileage are you currently on?
eightinavee
Well-Known Member
Thats a laugh,most of them are dead long before they need a freshen up with cam/chain/lfters etc.
jdennington
New Member
What do you consider to be a laugh, I have a 4.6 which is just coming up to 152,000 miles, original engine and no problems. There are many satisfied Rover V8 owners who havent had any issues. If you take in to account the number of engines produced from 3.9 up and then see how many were actually returned, you would find it is in fact a small percentage and not every one. Everything is relative, there are issues with some V8's as there are with the Diesel but I dont see a shortage of P38's on the road, and certainly at the shows held around the country each year, there are P38's in abundance. Lets keep things in proportion.
eightinavee
Well-Known Member
Basing my info on the number of RRC's,DII v8's and LP V8's that I see in my workshop and the 40 odd other garages that I work for - they are rubbish compared to the old 3.5 v8.So many are now being scrapped because the engine repairs are often double the value of the car.
jdennington
New Member
Admittedly the older 3.5 units are more reliable, as the cylinder walls are thicker due to a smaller bore but it's abit unfair to say that all later units are rubbish. From what you say, you must be making a roaring trade out of these faults so see little reason for you to complain. The original post was asking about belt or chain not reliability or horror stories. You are welcome to express your opinion as you see it and thats fine but expect to hear from others who dont have the problems you have encountered. The BMW diesel unit is renowned for breaking crankshafts as well as hot starting issues and underpowered units but there are lots of owners on this and other forums that wouldnt swap them for anything.
eightinavee
Well-Known Member
No,not really I'm actually very fed up with otherwise useful cars being scrapped.Plus it also means I tend to lose customers who have lost large sums of money and in some cases are still paying loans on them.
I would much rather repair cars and return them to a happy customer,unfortunately that is happening less often now,esp as fuel costs are rising and media slanging of anything 4wd takes hold.
Compared to the old 3.5 and TDI's - even TD5's the larger bore v8's do not age well,few make it to 200k.
I would much rather repair cars and return them to a happy customer,unfortunately that is happening less often now,esp as fuel costs are rising and media slanging of anything 4wd takes hold.
Compared to the old 3.5 and TDI's - even TD5's the larger bore v8's do not age well,few make it to 200k.
jdennington
New Member
I take your point from a customer perspective and it's true to say that the media love slating Land Rover and seem to forget to mention the other 4x4 manufacturers. Odd when you consider how much good work LR do around the world, dont see that from the others. Thankfully, die hard LR owners stick by their products despite all the problems, so hopefully you still see returning trade. I'm not sure how TATA will shake things up at LR but on my last factory visit, I have to say, the investment & changes bought in by Ford were amazing, and as their only profit making arm, was surprised they wanted to sell.
bwarb
New Member
I think it was more of a case of "as their only profit making arm, it was all they had that would sell".
I spent 10 years as an EMS consultant with Ford back in the 80's and 90's, I found that they are a company that is run by accountants. No long-term view, the most important thing are the numbers at the bottom of the next balance sheet. The sale of LR will have made the next balance sheet look a whole lot better ..... it's almost asset stripping.
