Dave90 · Mar 14, 2012

Hey all

After rumaging through my dads shed, I came across an intercooler, I've asked my dad and it's an Allard one, but it's designed to fit onto a TD engine. Its not a huge one, about twice the size of a standard 200tdi one, and it goes inbetween the slam panel bars. We have loads of pipes to get it to fit, just wondering if because it's designed to fit to a TD, will it be an improvement? I'm still going to fit it, just wondering

Thanks in advance

sypher · Mar 14, 2012

The colder the air getting in to the engine the better

. Have a play with it I say as you have nothing to loose .
you might notice a bit of lag as the turbo has to fill a bigger area but you can adjust the boost and the pump to compensate for that .

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

sypher said:
The colder the air getting in to the engine the better . Have a play with it I say as you have nothing to loose .
you might notice a bit of lag as the turbo has to fill a bigger area but you can adjust the boost and the pump to compensate for that .

Yeah true

My dads got a Jeremy Fearn Intercooler and it's near enough the same size as the radiator

and that thing really does shift, but seeing as this is free and it will be located in a better place than the old intercooler, I might as well fit it, it doesnt matter that the radiator will be slightly blocked, they're overcooler anyway

Cheers

wiltshire landyman · Mar 15, 2012

there fcukin rubbish

i will take it off ya hands if you want it out of the way..

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

wiltshire landyman said:
there fcukin rubbish

i will take it off ya hands if you want it out of the way..

If they're that bad what would you do with it?

We didn't pay for it, we got it off a mates 90 that he gave to us, I got my snorkel, hardtop, sliding windows and rear door off it for nothing :biggrin1: and now an intercooler, surely can't be worse than a standard one?

wiltshire landyman · Mar 15, 2012

Dave90 said:
If they're that bad what would you do with it?

We didn't pay for it, we got it off a mates 90 that he gave to us, I got my snorkel, hardtop, sliding windows and rear door off it for nothing :biggrin1: and now an intercooler, surely can't be worse than a standard one?

put it on my disco:tea:

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

wiltshire landyman said:
put it on my disco:tea:

Then you would have a 'fcukin rubbish' intercooler on your disco

wiltshire landyman · Mar 15, 2012

Dave90 said:
Then you would have a 'fcukin rubbish' intercooler on your disco

yep
:crazy_driver:

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

wiltshire landyman said:
yep
:crazy_driver:

I think I'll keep it tbh, thanks for your offer though

chunkymunky · Mar 15, 2012

oooo sounds fun. wonder what actual improvement it gives to a td

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

chunkymunky said:
oooo sounds fun. wonder what actual improvement it gives to a td

I'm sure it would make a big difference, but the fact that it is indirect injection is what makes it unsuitable for turbocharging apparently

Also I've read that the charge temp is sky high because there's no intercooler on them before

chunkymunky · Mar 15, 2012

i have no idea what that means

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

chunkymunky said:
i have no idea what that means

Turbo Diesel engine are in-direct injection, there is a chamber before the diesel is injected into the engine, It's more crude, not as efficient and worse on fuel, but is quieter, where as the 200tdi onwards (as the name states Turbo Direct Injection) Is Direct injection, the fuel goes straight from the pump into the engine, More effiecient, more power, but is noisier, but who cares

The intercooler cools the air going from the turbo into the engine, because when you compress air, it gets warm, so on a turbo diesel engine the temp that the turbo charges at, that's what goes in the engine, less than ideal, because to run effieciently you need the air to be cool, hence why cars now have intercoolers if they are turbocharged

and also why most cars run better when it's cold, there is more oxygen in the air because it's denser, more oxygen, means more fuel that can be burnt to develop more power

mick the builder · Mar 15, 2012

Dave90 said:
Turbo Diesel engine are in-direct injection, there is a chamber before the diesel is injected into the engine, It's more crude, not as efficient and worse on fuel, but is quieter, where as the 200tdi onwards (as the name states Turbo Direct Injection) Is Direct injection, the fuel goes straight from the pump into the engine, More effiecient, more power, but is noisier, but who cares The intercooler cools the air going from the turbo into the engine, because when you compress air, it gets warm, so on a turbo diesel engine the temp that the turbo charges at, that's what goes in the engine, less than ideal, because to run effieciently you need the air to be cool, hence why cars now have intercoolers if they are turbocharged and also why most cars run better when it's cold, there is more oxygen in the air because it's denser, more oxygen, means more fuel that can be burnt to develop more power

Fcukin Brilliant.

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

mick the builder said:
Fcukin Brilliant.

Please tell me that wasn't sarcastic?

sible88 · Mar 15, 2012

I have full front allisport on my 300tdi and that made a difference.

Dave90 · Mar 15, 2012

sible88 said:
I have full front allisport on my 300tdi and that made a difference.

Was looking at allisport and jeremy Fearn, but thought I would try this one before I go and buy a £400+ one, who knows, this one might be perfect for what I want

chunkymunky · Mar 15, 2012

Ah ok. Thanks. Now i get the idea.

Dave90 · Mar 16, 2012

chunkymunky said:
Ah ok. Thanks. Now i get the idea.

Ahahaaa

Dr_evil · Mar 16, 2012

Just buy a supercharger

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