ClassikFan
Active Member
What's the view on buying a part worn tyre?
Never thought I would but I've changed my mind recently.
Never thought I would but I've changed my mind recently.
brian47
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Part worn tyres can be OK, usually sold with a still useful depth of tread. The downside is you don't really know what they came off and whether the carcase had suffered any unseen or undetectable damage during their previous life, or whether the vehicle they came off had been in some sort of accident. For that reason, I wouldn't use them.
Neither would I use remoulds, after having a bad experience with delamination whilst driving on the M4 one day.
I suppose I'm fortunate these days in that I can afford to go out and buy new tyres when they're needed.
Neither would I use remoulds, after having a bad experience with delamination whilst driving on the M4 one day.
I suppose I'm fortunate these days in that I can afford to go out and buy new tyres when they're needed.
Pawl
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The big challenge is whether you can have any confidence in the integrity of the carcass.
You wouldn't want to experience a sidewall letting go at speed that had been damaged by kerbing. The damage can be confined to the wire reinforcement & hidden under the rubber.
The big disadvantage with 4x4s is the much larger sidewall than normal cars - its great for ride comfort, but very un-nerving when the tyre blows out & the relevant corner drops suddenly - especially if you're at speed & cornering - lol.
You wouldn't want to experience a sidewall letting go at speed that had been damaged by kerbing. The damage can be confined to the wire reinforcement & hidden under the rubber.
The big disadvantage with 4x4s is the much larger sidewall than normal cars - its great for ride comfort, but very un-nerving when the tyre blows out & the relevant corner drops suddenly - especially if you're at speed & cornering - lol.
David_Cooper
Active Member
I've fitted many part worn tyres to my jalopies over the years, never had any issues. Do be selective, though- there are worthwhile used tyres.. and some that just aren't worth bothering with.
As above, new is best and I'm only just getting to the point where I'd rather pay out for new than bother swapping old ones, but there we are.
Do check tyreleader.co.uk et al for the cost of new first though, you may be pleasantly surprised!
As above, new is best and I'm only just getting to the point where I'd rather pay out for new than bother swapping old ones, but there we are.
Do check tyreleader.co.uk et al for the cost of new first though, you may be pleasantly surprised!
blimey mate, bet ur trousers nearly delaminated as well when that happened
bought some runners from a small one man band a good while ago
but then later found out they were all fitted with inner tubes , tyres kept going flat
when i had new tyres fitted another garage advised me that it's suppose to be illegal to fit inner tubes inside tubeless tyres???
that was a good few years ago and don't know how true it is
they got me out of trouble but after that always bought new tyres , seeing a land rover is quite a heavy vehicle didn't like to take any further risks,
the cooper at3s i just had put in the front were less than £200 fitted ,
see asda now do tyres, starting at around £75 quid for a 235/70/17
brian47
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Nah, not really. It was way back in the olden days when I was young and stoopid!
I was in my old Moggie 1000 van, so the top speed was "We'll get there one day" and I heard a bit of a "tapping sort of noise" from the back end, pulled over on the hard shoulder somewhere near the Oxford slip and had a look but couldn't find anything so off again.
By the time I got to the Severn Bridge services, there was only one bridge in those days, pulled into the car park and had another look and there was a big chunk of tread hanging off.
It was then I had one of those "Ohh, sh*t" moments, so I went and had a cup of coffee before thinking about changing the wheel.
the old moggie , never drove one one them , when i had a herald on the back drivers side was a loose chassis outrigger
being young i thought nah don't need that , ripped it off, went down the road fine, but when i braked it felt strange , pulled over then went forward slowly whilst having the door open then as i braked the rear wheel would move forwards towards the front wheel arch bit , oooppppsss
drove home slowly , alas good old dad helped and welded a new outrigger on for me
ps , trying to think do hgvs still fit remoulds , or was it they can have them recut
Dartmoor Navigator
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Age needs to be thought of as well as condition.
discool
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Very true.
I had a 15 year old rear tyre that looked like new blow out at 80 mph, it started with a knocking sound at around the ton so I was slowing down... then bang, it put me into a spin facing where I'd just been a few times. A bit like a track day.
I put the even older unused spare on, and within 120miles that went bang, no probs then I was only doing 60 in lane 1 so just drove onto the hard shoulder.
Still have the car now 40 years old and tucked up in a warm garage, it hasn't done more than two hundred miles in the last 10 years and sitting on newish looking tyres, pumped up to the storage pressure of 50psi.
Modern cars have now taken its place on the road
Dartmoor Navigator
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Yep, most manufacturers won't recommend tyres beyond 6-8years and the British rubber manufacturers association won't uphold the base rubber beyond 10 years...
discool
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Your quite right, an "unused spare wheel" use to be a selling point I used years ago, so could be an been an iffy tyre.
I learnt my lesson, my disco spare was replaced after 15 years, it was unused. My old 10year old RR had an unused spare when sold.
But then I've been known to have three punctures in a year with my company car, no unused 'space saver' tyre there
Tyres are my night mare
brian47
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Yeah, a lovely old motor to cut ones motoring teeth and learn on.
I had two Moggies in my time, a 1000 van and a Minor series 2. My father had a Minor series MM and a 1000 Traveller (Woody) The "A" series engine was also fitted to the Austin A30 van (had one) the MG Midget (had one of those too) and then they turned it sideways and put a gearbox in the sump! Had two Minis and a MG1300.
I think that HGV tyres can still be recut, but there are probably restrictions on how deep the recut can go, and having been recut, which axles such a tyre can and cannot be used.
Taking into account the size and cost of HGV tyres, recutting, under the right circumstances can probably aid the "bottom line" for a company.
brian47
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I have read that tyres over 4 years old start to harden and hence they start losing their road holding and grip characteristics, particularly if they're stored and not used to help maintain their flexibility.
discool
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I had a 1966 Midget cost me £860.00 including the £14.00 for the optional heater. Still have the receipt
Learnt then that's the way to go.. Buy New
ClassikFan
Active Member
That is exactly the point. If you buy a part worn you can look inside to check for major issues but who takes the tyres of a 2nd hand car to check the carcass?
Dartmoor Navigator
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Not quite the whole story. The rubber compound is 'self lubricating' after time, usage, exposure to UV, water, temperature etc it loses this lubricant and the rubber is less effective. You can't necessarily see this deficiency by eye.
Take a picture if an older tyre close to the rim (where it takes max flex) - then enlarge the picture and you will be horrified by the small cracking and crazing that is present.
ClassikFan
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Not sure what your point is Dartmoor?
