ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

I know, loads of freds on this allready, blablablablabla........
So, i have the choice of either sticking in a 200tdi (straight swap) OR, a 300tdi. But i don't know the work exactly in putting a 300 in. Can someone go really in to detail? I have heard of modifying the chassis, Then again, i have ALSO heard of building a bracket around the oil filter to make it fit? I don't know, if someone could go very very in to detail about the job, would be fantanstic. The reason a 300tdi would be better, is because 200tdi's are VERY sparse over here. The frenchies want to sell me a crashed up, beaten up heap of crap for 1200 euros. OR a defender, with a broken g/b, transfer, and engine, a blocked front diff, and a body that had been cut up to make it in to a pickup, for 3500 euros. Dreamers, they are over here. But you can find 300tdi's for very cheap.
Thanks

Ttwo · Aug 31, 2015

I think when I sell my 200 I know where to go now haha

spencer1885 · Aug 31, 2015

300 tdi very easy to fit,cut and weld the chassis engine mount on the oil filter side of the engine.

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

Ttwo said:
I think when I sell my 200 I know where to go now haha

So you have a 200 lying around?

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

spencer1885 said:
300 tdi very easy to fit,cut and weld the chassis engine mount on the oil filter side of the engine.

Didn't particularly want to modify the chassis.. I'll see when it comes to it though.

chrisstdt · Aug 31, 2015

Its the same over here good 200s are hard to come by and 300s seem more plentyful and as i have a good 300 in my disco i know what engine im using !

Been looking into it and your options for the engine mounts are cut and weld the R/H mount further back or make up a mount that uses the holes further back on the block but reaches forward to the existing chassis mount

Cutting the chassis seems easier unless you realy dont want to

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

chrisstdt said:
Its the same over here good 200s are hard to come by and 300s seem more plentyful and as i have a good 300 in my disco i know what engine im using !

Been looking into it and your options for the engine mounts are cut and weld the R/H mount further back or make up a mount that uses the holes further back on the block but reaches forward to the existing chassis mount

Cutting the chassis seems easier unless you realy dont want to

Okay. I would have thought 200tdi's were much easier to find over there? anyway, still don't know if i want to modify the chassis.. I might wait it out until a 200 comes my way. I DO have a candidate, a tidy lookin disco 200tdi, complete, with a few minor problems for 990 euros.

trax · Aug 31, 2015

depends if you want to keep the lt77 or not.

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

trax said:
depends if you want to keep the lt77 or not.

That's very true, i never considered that. I think i wanna keep the lt77.

trax · Aug 31, 2015

ProcrastinatorFraser said:
That's very true, i never considered that. I think i wanna keep the lt77.

a 300 will be up pretty tight by the bulkhead then, so won't be in factory position. so, you'll need to extend hoses and bits n bobs, plus the mounts

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

Would the turbo hit the footwell too?

trax · Aug 31, 2015

ProcrastinatorFraser said:
Would the turbo hit the footwell too?

no, don't think so. probably have to fiddle with pipes and exhaust though.

it's been done a fair bit so there should be detailed guides and kits about

trax · Aug 31, 2015

some info and predone kit https://www.steveparkers.com/conver...0110-land-rover-4-cylinder-with-lt77-gearbox/

btw what's in atm a 2.5na?

Ttwo · Aug 31, 2015

No I'm using it atm sorry....I never realised when I got mine that there more sort after....so strange as there slow as **** haha

mikescuba · Aug 31, 2015

Did you consider rebuilding your 200 tdi engine or buying a reconditioned one from the UK and have it shipped out to you?

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

Sorry, finally getting back to you. Had to wash the old gal off. Trax, yes its a 2.5N/A. and thanks for the infos

Ttwo, thats fine. I just want a more economical, powerful and smooth engine

And mikescuba, yes i want to rebuild it when i get it.. Even if it runs, i want to recondition it myself, curious about how it all goes together

garside · Aug 31, 2015

Ive fitted a 300tdi engine in my 1987 landrover 90 originally fitted with the 2.5td engine in it, i made a bracket to fit around the oil filter so i didnt have to modify the chassis and also used my lt77 gearbox. I had a good search around on the internet before i started and figured not modifiying the chassis was the best option just in case it didnt pass its french CT.

ProcrastinatorFraser · Aug 31, 2015

garside said:
Ive fitted a 300tdi engine in my 1987 landrover 90 originally fitted with the 2.5td engine in it, i made a bracket to fit around the oil filter so i didnt have to modify the chassis and also used my lt77 gearbox. I had a good search around on the internet before i started and figured not modifiying the chassis was the best option just in case it didnt pass its french CT.

YES! thats what i wanted! can you post pics of the bracket if you have it? would be greatly apreciated!

chrisstdt · Aug 31, 2015

pics

Only works on defender mounts as the R/H series mount will stab the oil filter

Im going to try shortening my chassis mount and make something similar to this to bolt to the engine

chrisstdt · Aug 31, 2015

some measurements

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