[philsefo]

Hello,

I am trying to remove the front bumper as its bent in on the passenger side, i cant get one of the bolts off.

I got the two on the drive side off no problem, but the one of the passenger side it stuck - there was only one in the passenger side.

Where the bolt goes into the chassis it looks like it screws into a metal plate that is loose and turns in the chassis. It does stop when it hits the side and i can apply pressure on the bolt then. However im like 1 turn away from it coming off and it wont go any further.

I've sprayed a ton of plus gas on it, don't have any heat source. Also if i grindy it off the bottom of the bolt will still be stuck

Any reconmendations?

Cheers

 

[Al2O3]

The plates on the end of the bolts will look something like this. LINKY
Can you tighten it back a few turns? It's good to try and turn both ways, even slightly, to gradually loosen a seized nut.

 

[philsefo]

Yeah it moves freely both ways then it hits a point and i cant get it passed there. If i cut the bolt off then i'll probably have that plate stuck inside the chassis wont i?

thanks

 

[Timmyt79]

Yeah it moves freely both ways then it hits a point and i cant get it passed there. If i cut the bolt off then i'll probably have that plate stuck inside the chassis wont i?

thanks

The plate is attached to the actual bumper...it slips onto the lower part and then slides onto the dumb iron then bolts slip through from above.so dont worry about destroying them!

 

[discomania]

Quick tip: If you have a welder, weld a piece of HT fence wire or thin steel rod onto the plate to give you something to hold when you put it back in and also helps a lot when you are undoing it.

My thoughts are that the bottom of the bolt will be badly corroded and you have now wound this section into the threaded plate that is now bound up. If you have a difficult to remove bolt and it's turning then you stop it can seize and make it more difficult to remove. You will struggle to get heat in there would baking the chassis paint so I'd start by trying to wind it back in the way, this may help to break up corrosion, then I'd just get a 2 foot breaker bar on it and go for it, you will probably break the bolt but once you have it out you can remove it and re-tap it. I got mine galvanised complete with my HT fence wire additions.

 

[discomania]

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[discomania]

The plate will look a bit like this:

Or if it's like mine it will just be the old style plate tapped with 2 holes in it that rattles about in the wind until the bolts clamp it up.

 

[philsefo]

The plate is attached to the actual bumper...it slips onto the lower part and then slides onto the dumb iron then bolts slip through from above.so dont worry about destroying them!

So that piece of metal in the dumb iron should be attached to the bumper? the reason im removing it is the bumper was bent in some sort of crash and its the bent end im struggling with. But yeah the piece of metal the bolt is screwed into is loose in the dumb iron.

Cheers

 

[Timmyt79]

Yep thats right,if you look at the pic discomania posted you can get the idea...the underside of what you can see is like a kind of tab that allows it to slip into the bumper,keeping it in place whilst you offer it up to dumb irons and slide bolt in from above...it will all make sense once you pull the old,rusted,one off yours!make sure you lube the new ones up well..i use copper slip myself.

 

[discomania]

So that piece of metal in the dumb iron should be attached to the bumper? the reason im removing it is the bumper was bent in some sort of crash and its the bent end im struggling with. But yeah the piece of metal the bolt is screwed into is loose in the dumb iron.

Cheers

On most older Landy's, the metal tab will have disintegrated, like mine, leaving just a metal plate with two threaded holes. The tabs make it easier, but are not strictly required.

I will see if I can find the photos of mine.

 

[Timmyt79]

i can post a photo if needed as bumper is off mine in the workshop as just had to weld a couple of bits...let me know

 

[philsefo]

i can post a photo if needed as bumper is off mine in the workshop as just had to weld a couple of bits...let me know

Yes that would be helpful. I'm spending some time on it next week and that would be useful. Thanks

 

[Timmyt79]

Yes that would be helpful. I'm spending some time on it next week and that would be useful. Thanks

Hi not back until tomorrow but will put up a pic for you as soon as I can

 

[philsefo]

Yeah there is no rush. Thanks for the help

 

[Timmyt79]

Hope these help you get an idea of how it works

 

[philsefo]

Yes, that should help. Thanks alot.

Hopefully i'll be able to get it off!!