[DastardlyDan]

Finally picking up my first hippo on Sunday (yaaay!) but I'm wondering... is the early L series hippo compatible with the OBD based Torque app?

Would be nice if it is, as it gives an amazingly accurate boost gauge on my Rover 45.


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[gstuart]

Finally picking up my first hippo on Sunday (yaaay!) but I'm wondering... is the early L series hippo compatible with the OBD based Torque app?

Would be nice if it is, as it gives an amazingly accurate boost gauge on my Rover 45.


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the diesels were 2004 before becoming obd2 compliant

 

[DastardlyDan]

but... my old R45 isn't OBD2 compliant either. It can't read/reset fault codes, but can still display sensors - hence my question

 

[gstuart]

but... my old R45 isn't OBD2 compliant either. It can't read/reset fault codes, but can still display sensors - hence my question

maybe someone else will know , never used it as mines a 2002 so never bothered buying any readers apart from the hawkeye

please let me know if it works as mine is pre obd2 compliant would be interesting to see if it worked

 

[GrumpyGel]

I bought a ODB2 Bluetooth plug in jobie and it couldn't communicate with my L Series's comms.

 

[GrumpyGel]

It would be great if there is a solution - as you say, just to be able to read the engine/ABS sensors would be fantastic.

 

[longdog]

The Torque app and reader works on my 2002 td4, engine data only though.

 

[Nodge68]

The Torque app will only read engine codes. Then generally codes that relate to emissions problems. This is why OBD2 exists in the first place. The blue tooth dongle that Torque uses, can't access other ECUs. The L series Freelander isn't OBD2 compliant.

 

[gstuart]

The Torque app and reader works on my 2002 td4, engine data only though.

that's interesting , u wouldnt have a link etc would u , on the one u used plse

do u have to also plug a bluetooth dongle etc into the obd socket

is there a link that shows what ur torque shows

would it work on an iPad

got a hawkeye for the codes etc

sorry asking so many questions , thks ,

 

[Nodge68]

that's interesting , u wouldnt have a link etc would u , on the one u used plse

do u have to also plug a bluetooth dongle etc into the obd socket

is there a link that shows what ur torque shows

would it work on an iPad

got a hawkeye for the codes etc

sorry asking so many questions , thks ,

You get nothing extra using the Torque app over the Hawkeye. The Hawkeye does live values and code reading on all ECU's the Torque app doesn't. I don't believe that there is a Torque app for IOS although there are similar apps for the I pad.
With a Hawkeye, you don't need anything else.

 

[DastardlyDan]

On my R45, you could get live readings from every sensor (MAP sensor, MAF sensor, temp, revs, etc) But it could NOT access fault codes.

And as above - it can't access other ECUs in the car (alarm/airbags) only specifically the engine ECU

 

[gstuart]

You get nothing extra using the Torque app over the Hawkeye. The Hawkeye does live values and code reading on all ECU's the Torque app doesn't. I don't believe that there is a Torque app for IOS although there are similar apps for the I pad.
With a Hawkeye, you don't need anything else.

cheers mate and understand what ur saying

so the torque app doesn't show live data , just thought as there so cheap would be good just to see live data from the sensors

my main reason would be to see live data showing mpg

may I ask what does it actually show , any live data at all , with the engine running what would it show please

as I have a synergy could then if live mpg data was displayed could alter the synergy box accordingly and use the torque as a guide

have looked at the bluetooth boxes u plug in but don't have a clue which one

even looked at the scangauge units but was told they don't work as mines pre obd2 complaint so wouldn't spend the money if it didn't work , just wanted the mpg live data readings

thks again

 

[GrumpyGel]

You get nothing extra using the Torque app over the Hawkeye. The Hawkeye does live values and code reading on all ECU's the Torque app doesn't. I don't believe that there is a Torque app for IOS although there are similar apps for the I pad.
With a Hawkeye, you don't need anything else.

Hawkeye is very expensive (£300?), the other one that works the iCarsSoft i930 is expensive (£100). Both are also bespoke units that you can't adapt.

The generic ODB2 readers are cheap (£10) and give you (me!) the ability to adapt the interface on a phone/tablet/pc to view the things your (I'm!) interested in real time. Specifically I'd love to be able to monitor the 4 ABS speed sensors to tell me when a tyre's lost pressure.

 

[longdog]

Got mine set on my phone for speed(gps),coolant temp,volts, intake temp,and boost pressure.
You can set it it up for mpg, but don't know how accurate it would be.
It's ok for what it cost, doesn't read auto box temp though which would have been useful.
Same functions work on my '02 td4 manual and '06 td4 auto.

 

[Nodge68]

Hawkeye is very expensive (£300?), the other one that works the iCarsSoft i930 is expensive (£100). Both are also bespoke units that you can't adapt.

The generic ODB2 readers are cheap (£10) and give you (me!) the ability to adapt the interface on a phone/tablet/pc to view the things your (I'm!) interested in real time. Specifically I'd love to be able to monitor the 4 ABS speed sensors to tell me when a tyre's lost pressure.

Agreed the ELM adaptor is cheap, but it's cheap for a reason. It's not what you call feature packed. It doesn't connect to any system other than the engine ECU. This mean no live data for ABS, gearbox or BCU. In this respect, the Hawkeye or I 930 is better.
Torque is fine for performance testing or monitoring/ recording engine temperature while driving but that's about it's limit.

For my Discovery 3, I've had to buy a device called IID BT tool. This cost more than a Hawkeye but is 1000 times more powerful. It's also a must for such a modern vehicle.

 

[GrumpyGel]

Agreed the ELM adaptor is cheap, but it's cheap for a reason. It's not what you call feature packed. It doesn't connect to any system other than the engine ECU. This mean no live data for ABS, gearbox or BCU. In this respect, the Hawkeye or I 930 is better.
Torque is fine for performance testing or monitoring/ recording engine temperature while driving but that's about it's limit.

For my Discovery 3, I've had to buy a device called IID BT tool. This cost more than a Hawkeye but is 1000 times more powerful. It's also a must for such a modern vehicle.

The ELM devices are not cheap because they lack 'features' - they're cheap because electrontic components are cheap. The expensive units use basically the same components. They're only more expensive because they have 'subtle' changes that the enable a niche market and therefore they charge like wounded bulls.

 

[Nodge68]

The ELM devices are not cheap because they lack 'features' - they're cheap because electrontic components are cheap. The expensive units use basically the same components. They're only more expensive because they have 'subtle' changes that the enable a niche market and therefore they charge like wounded bulls.

The actual components are cheap for sure. However the components are cheap because they are just that, components . The programming is what's expensive. Somebody has to sit down with the car and work out what section of code does what on the data stream. There are also multiple protocols on the ODB2 ports used by different manufacturers. This is why OBD2 came into being. It's a kind of open data bus for the engine engine ECU. However it's only open for faults or running conditions that could affect emission output. All other ECUs are only available to higher priced code readers, because the reader's maker has invested time and money in there product and it's programming.
The is what separates the ELM327 from higher priced, vehicle specific multi ECU readers.