hippo
saw this dont know if its any use to you
http://www.muddyoval.com/articles/fltech/transmission/JF506E Supplement Part 1.pdf
saw this dont know if its any use to you
http://www.muddyoval.com/articles/fltech/transmission/JF506E Supplement Part 1.pdf
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Just to confirm my comment above regarding the L series diesel, I was able to read an engine code, something like code 13 or 15. Also able to see inside the abs unit which had a few error codes. These related to the gap of the near side front abs sensor, and something else perhaps electrical connection intermittent. Both faults were listed as historic. I assume this is because they had been fixed, but not cleared from the computer. I was able to clear all 3 faults.
jamesmartin
Well-Known Member
you get all kinds of hisoric faults which cab be just caused by low battery voltage or by hitting big potholes ets
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Edit: 16 May 2015
The new Hawkeye version 7 software has fixed a number of faults in the auto gearbox menu. Video's of the updated software added to this fred. They have also added new Freelander 1 features.
Cuza68
Just upload my video's as a comparison. Even though we have different engines and the auto's gear ratio's are different, it's effectively the same Jatco auto. The codes registered for the computers are different. Mine is for the v6, and yours comes up with 4A onwards, which would refer to the vin number. I would guess even though there could be a slight difference in where the data comes from, or how it's generated, the control functions of the auto and the data collected is the same. Or there abouts. Hence why we seem to have the same duff information.
It seems the HawkEye struggles to display the correct data. Some of it is missing, whilst a lot of other stuff is blatantly wrong. That's a big disappointment for me. As said above the auto gearbox live data was the reason I bought it. The upgrade to version 5 firmware hasn't solved the problem.
My auto gearbox:
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V5 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Computer Live Data. Engine Warm On Tickover
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V5 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Computer Live Data. Engine Warm at 60mph
v6 engine:
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V4 Diagnostic. Engine Computer Live Data Engine Warm On Tick Over
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V4 Diagnostic. Engine Computer Live Data at 60mph Engine Warm
As I haven't been able to obtain a technical manual for the HawkEye when used with a v6 Freelander 1, or any Freelander 1, I've been using the Black Box Solutions website as a technical reference for the parameters listed on the HawkEye. The BBS site also has a product which interfaces with Freelander 1's, and they've been kind enough to list this information on the web for all to use.
Data for the Jatco auto gearbox parameters can be found over ere:
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/ and click "Transmission \ Jatco Auto Box"
and data for the v6 engine parameters over ere:
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/ and click "Petrol EMS \ Siemens EMS 2000"
also a lot of other stuff in the menu's over ere:
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/
Not sure which link option is for the td4.
The new Hawkeye version 7 software has fixed a number of faults in the auto gearbox menu. Video's of the updated software added to this fred. They have also added new Freelander 1 features.
Cuza68
Just upload my video's as a comparison. Even though we have different engines and the auto's gear ratio's are different, it's effectively the same Jatco auto. The codes registered for the computers are different. Mine is for the v6, and yours comes up with 4A onwards, which would refer to the vin number. I would guess even though there could be a slight difference in where the data comes from, or how it's generated, the control functions of the auto and the data collected is the same. Or there abouts. Hence why we seem to have the same duff information.
It seems the HawkEye struggles to display the correct data. Some of it is missing, whilst a lot of other stuff is blatantly wrong. That's a big disappointment for me. As said above the auto gearbox live data was the reason I bought it. The upgrade to version 5 firmware hasn't solved the problem.
My auto gearbox:
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V5 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Computer Live Data. Engine Warm On Tickover
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V5 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Computer Live Data. Engine Warm at 60mph
v6 engine:
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V4 Diagnostic. Engine Computer Live Data Engine Warm On Tick Over
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye V4 Diagnostic. Engine Computer Live Data at 60mph Engine Warm
As I haven't been able to obtain a technical manual for the HawkEye when used with a v6 Freelander 1, or any Freelander 1, I've been using the Black Box Solutions website as a technical reference for the parameters listed on the HawkEye. The BBS site also has a product which interfaces with Freelander 1's, and they've been kind enough to list this information on the web for all to use.
Data for the Jatco auto gearbox parameters can be found over ere:
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/ and click "Transmission \ Jatco Auto Box"
and data for the v6 engine parameters over ere:
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/ and click "Petrol EMS \ Siemens EMS 2000"
also a lot of other stuff in the menu's over ere:
https://www.blackbox-solutions.com/shop/help/
Not sure which link option is for the td4.
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Thanks Hippo. Seems the problem is with the Hawkeye and not us.Are you dealing with the supplier direct and if so have you got anywhere. Was wondering if it is worth me notifying them of the problem also as the Hawkeye is showing up that many wrong readings. I will have another check today and monitor against your uploads to see how different they are.The BBS site is very useful and shows up quite a few areas where the Hawkeye is making things up as it seems. Would have thought this would have been tested prior to release.
Hippo
Lord Hippo
I have been in contact with the product owner, but haven't reported our findings yet. I did have a v6 owner tell me he had the same issues, but he sold it before I could get him to record it. Hence the fred.
I'll contact them again this week. Feel free to contact them yourself. I've sort of had an ongoing email conversation with them for some time. Will reply to this and provide links to the video's, and also a link to ere if it helps, when informing them the product falls short in some areas.
If I type Freelander Hawkeye into google, this fred comes up first.
I'll contact them again this week. Feel free to contact them yourself. I've sort of had an ongoing email conversation with them for some time. Will reply to this and provide links to the video's, and also a link to ere if it helps, when informing them the product falls short in some areas.
If I type Freelander Hawkeye into google, this fred comes up first.
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Hippo. Here is the new vid from my mates 52 plate td4 auto. Sorry it took so long.The engine was running even though it does not show. Yet again very wierd readings just like ours. Now this is confirmed I will be in contact with the product owner also hoping for some answers. Here is the link, hope this is helpful to you. Cheers Andy
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahhyeo90HVc]DSCN0667.MOV - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahhyeo90HVc]DSCN0667.MOV - YouTube[/ame]
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Auto seems to be the worst from what I seen. Other options have some duff info but not as much. Hawkeye stuff on you tube in link below.
jedi
Well-Known Member
Yep seen your videos....thanks
I find this pretty appalling, that it shows duff info....for a £300 diagnostic machine....
Do you think ask the Freelander1 is now old hat that they are not bothered with supporting it any more?
Did they/will they ever address these problems do you think?
I find this pretty appalling, that it shows duff info....for a £300 diagnostic machine....
Do you think ask the Freelander1 is now old hat that they are not bothered with supporting it any more?
Did they/will they ever address these problems do you think?
Hippo
Lord Hippo
I told them about the faults several times and in the end after using the later v5 software upgrade the faults were still present. My comments were passed higher up the company. In the end I received a reply effectively telling me it is what it is, and not a Testbook which can do everything. I do understand that but as you say £300 is a lot. the one thing I wanted it for was auto gearbox problems. I guess their efforts were more towards the newer more expensive hawkeye pro. Something I won't be buying as the price is higher than I would want to pay.
Edit: 16 May 2015
The new Hawkeye version 7 software has fixed a number of faults in the auto gearbox menu. Video's of the updated software added to this fred. They have also added new Freelander 1 features.
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jedi
Well-Known Member
That is a shame indeed, I have noticed there is a version 6 firmware out according to the bearmach site...have you tried this? And how do you get the update? Do they send you the file on disc etc........
I enquired about the lynx diags that britpart/omitec do...I asked what sort of output tests the unit can be preform on the abs braking system.....The technical reply from omitec tech suport was "it did make a rumbling sound sir" and thats as technical as it got.....they did nt even know what there own diagnostics is capable of doing......which put me right off buying it there and then...
I enquired about the lynx diags that britpart/omitec do...I asked what sort of output tests the unit can be preform on the abs braking system.....The technical reply from omitec tech suport was "it did make a rumbling sound sir" and thats as technical as it got.....they did nt even know what there own diagnostics is capable of doing......which put me right off buying it there and then...
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Edit: 16 May 2015
The new Hawkeye version 7 software has fixed a number of faults in the auto gearbox menu. Video's of the updated software added to this fred. They have also added new Freelander 1 features.
When my hawkeye was upgraded from v4 to v5 I sent it oft to be done. I think they will give out the software for free. They did my upgrade for free and sent it back to me. I think upgrades were free in the first year of ownership. You can buy a cable to do it yourself. I think it was something like £30 but not sure. It would be nice if it were free again.
Although I still think a hawkeye is a useful device I can't help feeling bitter towards the slight issue of deleting my rolling code which produced error code P1672 which ended up with my hippo on the back of a recovery truck which took us to the main dealer to have the codes resynchronised. All I wanted was to program another fob.
After upgrading the software you have to send oft yer serial number for the hawkeye to get a new license number.
Some people quote they had trouble doing the upgrade themselves. No comment.
They normally provide a chart listing what version software does what, with what vehicle. I can't find a copy with version 6 included.
The new Hawkeye version 7 software has fixed a number of faults in the auto gearbox menu. Video's of the updated software added to this fred. They have also added new Freelander 1 features.
When my hawkeye was upgraded from v4 to v5 I sent it oft to be done. I think they will give out the software for free. They did my upgrade for free and sent it back to me. I think upgrades were free in the first year of ownership. You can buy a cable to do it yourself. I think it was something like £30 but not sure. It would be nice if it were free again.
Although I still think a hawkeye is a useful device I can't help feeling bitter towards the slight issue of deleting my rolling code which produced error code P1672 which ended up with my hippo on the back of a recovery truck which took us to the main dealer to have the codes resynchronised. All I wanted was to program another fob.
After upgrading the software you have to send oft yer serial number for the hawkeye to get a new license number.
Some people quote they had trouble doing the upgrade themselves. No comment.
They normally provide a chart listing what version software does what, with what vehicle. I can't find a copy with version 6 included.
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Hippo
Lord Hippo
Earlier this year I sent my Hawkeye off to Bearmach for a free software upgrade from v5 to v7. I've been playing with the new software version for a while. They have added some new features for the Freelander 1 and also fixed some issues the previous software versions had. Some of that is related to intermittent comms failures when entering/exiting menu's. It also contains fixes which solve most of the auto gearbox menu problems as discussed on this fred. The auto computer's live data menu has been fixed. It now shows propper values for each item. Most of these values look correct/feasible from what I've seen so far. Video examples below. I have some more to edit and upload which I will add to this fred later on.
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye v7 Diagnostic. Jatco Auto Gearbox Computer Live Data. Engine Off and Cold
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye v7 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Live Data. Engine Off And Warm
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye v7 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Live Data. Engine Warm At 60mph
Well done to Bearmach the manufacturer of the Hawkeye for taking on board the problems and spending time/money to provide updated software. They have also added some new Freelander 1 features.
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye v7 Diagnostic. Jatco Auto Gearbox Computer Live Data. Engine Off and Cold
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye v7 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Live Data. Engine Off And Warm
Freelander 1 v6 HawkEye v7 Diagnostic Jatco Auto Gearbox Live Data. Engine Warm At 60mph
Well done to Bearmach the manufacturer of the Hawkeye for taking on board the problems and spending time/money to provide updated software. They have also added some new Freelander 1 features.
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