[andyc86]

Morning all
My range rover has developed a mind of its own. ......
There seems to be a problem with the auto gearbox, it doesn't happen all the time but unfortunately seems to be getting more frequent and that when I come to a stop at a junction I lose all drive, engine is running fine but no drive in any gear including low box. Only after turning the engine off or waiting several minutes and trying different gears will it start going again! Getting a bit frustrating now.......... the only issue is the gear selector is a bit worn and needs possible adjustment, is the culprit or something more sinister.
All ideas welcome
Thank you boys and girls

 

[dogsbody]

I'd start by checking the oil level in the box.

 

[andyc86]

thank you for the reply, cool shall check asap

Forgive me for sounding.... well thick really, but on 2.5DT 1998 R plate is the auto gearbox dipstick in the engine bay as per the owners handbook, if so then im stumped as nothing there. But I would assume the usual place is the filler/level plug like most early LR gearboxes.

 

[Saint.V8]

Correct...there is a fill/level plug on the side if the 'box

 

[andyc86]

Excellent shall post an update later on regarding oil level and thank you guys

 

[wammers]

On a 98 it should have a dipstick. Level/filler plug if it has had dipstick removed or a later box fitted is on front of gearbox sump. Run engine move through gears and place in park.
Remove plug and top up until fluid begins to run out of level plug. Maybe best to remove sump, change filter and refill with new oil. XYZ switch may also need some attention.

 

[Datatek]

Correct...there is a fill/level plug on the side if the 'box

Front of the sump pan Ant

 

[Druim]

Never changed ATF and filter? Quickly get it done, best two times or more with little miles in between as you only partially change each time.

 

[andyc86]

Brilliant chaps thank you, managed to spray some wd40 type substance on the xyz gear switch play around with wiring connection during my lunch break. Unable to check fluid level as need a 8mm? Allen key :confused2: but since this, it hasn't done it on way home (21 miles) and plus collecting daughter from school.
If the weather clears or access to the farm work shop is available I'll get under there and check level.......
Funny thing is, has no engine bay dipstick and have a invoice for £600 for a rebuilt gearbox by one of previous owners..... interesting.

 

[dogsbody]

Brilliant chaps thank you, managed to spray some wd40 type substance on the xyz gear switch play around with wiring connection during my lunch break. Unable to check fluid level as need a 8mm? Allen key :confused2: but since this, it hasn't done it on way home (21 miles) and plus collecting daughter from school.
If the weather clears or access to the farm work shop is available I'll get under there and check level.......
Funny thing is, has no engine bay dipstick and have a invoice for £600 for a rebuilt gearbox by one of previous owners..... interesting.

That's a cheap rebuild, full job is usually about twice that and upwards.
If the fluid is low, but red, look for a leak, possibly around the cooler.
If the fluid is black look for a bank loan.

 

[Datatek]

That's a cheap rebuild, full job is usually about twice that and upwards.
If the fluid is low, but red, look for a leak, possibly around the cooler.
If the fluid is black look for a bank loan.

Ashcrofts are a bit more, but there are a few places that will do a rebuild for £600 or less.

 

[wammers]

Brilliant chaps thank you, managed to spray some wd40 type substance on the xyz gear switch play around with wiring connection during my lunch break. Unable to check fluid level as need a 8mm? Allen key :confused2: but since this, it hasn't done it on way home (21 miles) and plus collecting daughter from school.
If the weather clears or access to the farm work shop is available I'll get under there and check level.......
Funny thing is, has no engine bay dipstick and have a invoice for £600 for a rebuilt gearbox by one of previous owners..... interesting.

The later box has been fitted that is all. At £600.00 read second hand box rather than rebuilt if that includes labour costs.

 

[andyc86]

Thank you for the replies guys......
I do believe that it may have a second hand box fitted, as a few mentioned and a couple of I spoke to today, though due to my complete dis-organisation I shall find the invoice and confirm.

Right to the matter in hand..... being very temperamental at the moment, particularly when I first start to drive it, still no drive....... only after selecting low box in 1st gear on several occasions it all seemed to start working again.
Checked oil level, as following hand book and what was said on here, and a small amount dripped out, of which was standard ATF 11D red colour, no fowl smell and felt fine. So far seems ok.

Maybe xyz gear switch? Or something else........ just to add there is no messages on the dash at the moment.
Thoughts please chaps :scratching_chin:

 

[andyc86]

Shall also mention that the gear selector is really slack, and when selecting drive in particular that it has two positions, first one saying you are then a slight movement and you actually select drive, with normal engine note change.
Now would this and a iffy xyz gear switch to blame......... either way it definitely needs adjustment.

 

[PPP38vouge]

Morning, easy enough to adjust gear selector, there is a bloke on you tube that talks you through the operation. If you have had a second gearbox fitted in the past the gear selector may not have been adjusted properly and therefore could be your problem. Worth a look underneath just for peace of mind.
Paul.

 

[Datatek]

Shall also mention that the gear selector is really slack, and when selecting drive in particular that it has two positions, first one saying you are then a slight movement and you actually select drive, with normal engine note change.
Now would this and a iffy xyz gear switch to blame......... either way it definitely needs adjustment.

If you can pull away in 1st and then it works normall until next time you stop that's a sprag clutch failed.

 

[andyc86]

Sprag clutch..... doesn't sound too good, I'll do a bit of research on that one and find out. In mean time any way of testing or eliminating that possibility.

Been on a 40 mile round trip today and no issues at all, bloody strange.

Thanks for the advice about the gear selector adjustment I'll be checking out youtube

 

[stopover]

On a 98 it should have a dipstick. Level/filler plug if it has had dipstick removed or a later box fitted is on front of gearbox sump. Run engine move through gears and place in park.
Remove plug and top up until fluid begins to run out of level plug. Maybe best to remove sump, change filter and refill with new oil. XYZ switch may also need some attention.

Correct but you ned to keep the engine running. ie Ashcroft says:
non dipstick type autoboxes, TD5 Etc :
put transfer case in neutral remove oil filler level plug, front face of oil sump, fill until it overflows, start engine, quickly pump more oil in until it overflows move the gear stick up and down a few seconds in each gear whilst topping the oil level up, once level has stabilised, test drive and recheck oil level,

 

[wammers]

Correct but you ned to keep the engine running. ie Ashcroft says:
non dipstick type autoboxes, TD5 Etc :
put transfer case in neutral remove oil filler level plug, front face of oil sump, fill until it overflows, start engine, quickly pump more oil in until it overflows move the gear stick up and down a few seconds in each gear whilst topping the oil level up, once level has stabilised, test drive and recheck oil level,

Yeah i know, when and at what point after i said run engine did i say turn it off?

 

[stopover]

Yeah i know, when and at what point after i said run engine did i say turn it off?

You didn't. Just wanted to make sure that the engine was still running whilst putting fluid in and running through the gears. No need to be touchy.

You said: On a 98 it should have a dipstick. Level/filler plug if it has had dipstick removed or a later box fitted is on front of gearbox sump. Run engine move through gears and place in park.
Remove plug and top up until fluid begins to run out of level plug. Maybe best to remove sump, change filter and refill with new oil. XYZ switch may also need some attention.

Run through the gears and Place in Park - Remove plug and top up! This is not correct. You remove the plug and top up then run the engine and run throught the gears (a couple of seconds at each gear change) foot on the brake, at the same time (someone underneath) is putting in more fluid until the level stabilises. Then replace the plug and do a test run.