Optimus Prime
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if you need to travel to Germany, that all well and good. There is no requirement for a TD4 vehicle in the UK to have it, you would not need to inform DVLA.
You may get a discount on the congestion charge, but I don't think so.
The TD4 engine meets all current requirements for the LEZ in central london and does not attract a charge for travelling within the LEZ.
You should tell your insurers though.
Good Luck
You may get a discount on the congestion charge, but I don't think so.
The TD4 engine meets all current requirements for the LEZ in central london and does not attract a charge for travelling within the LEZ.
You should tell your insurers though.
Good Luck
@Optimus Prime
Thanks for your response. Well then I would like to know how the heck in Germany they will know that one is installed. Anyway thanks will call the insurance.
update: Just called the insurance and it wouldn't be a problem or affecting my policy. Would I need any special certificate stating it I am allowed to install that Piece. Does anyone know those dpf are in UK? Had a look on island4x4 but couldn't find it.
Regards
Matthias
Thanks for your response. Well then I would like to know how the heck in Germany they will know that one is installed. Anyway thanks will call the insurance.
update: Just called the insurance and it wouldn't be a problem or affecting my policy. Would I need any special certificate stating it I am allowed to install that Piece. Does anyone know those dpf are in UK? Had a look on island4x4 but couldn't find it.
Regards
Matthias
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Big Uli
Active Member
As said previously your engine meets requirements
Things are a lot different over here for a lot of things regarding your car
Forget all this Tüv approved lark for alloy wheels and additional equipment
No need to get it added to your paperwork either
If it is made by the manufacturer to fit your car that is good enough
I needed some wheel spacers yesterday to get my new wheels to fit and if any Tüv clown saw that he'd have a fit
Here in England they are still learning to **** ink and I hope to god they don't get good at it.
Big Uli
Active Member
I thought the green sticker was for the ASU?
Chap I know got rid of his Peugeot diesel van because emissions where to high and he worked a lot down London way
All this stuff is on computer now and he was worried about getting into the low emission zone
Not sure if he needed to be worried but he didn't fancy taking the chance
Chap I know got rid of his Peugeot diesel van because emissions where to high and he worked a lot down London way
All this stuff is on computer now and he was worried about getting into the low emission zone
Not sure if he needed to be worried but he didn't fancy taking the chance
I wouldn't try sticking a dpf on an engine not designed to have it. Having owned a citroen with dpf, it's more grief and heartache. If you're going into german cities that require 1 to be fitted, hire a car there or use public transport. Your Landy doesn't need an excuse to be a worky ticket, it'll be that anyway
The only DPF available (if it exists) won't be a genuine Land Rover one as it never had one fitted from the factory.
It will be an aftermarket solution and I'm not sure how well that would work as you have no way of regenerating the DPF.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do!
It will be an aftermarket solution and I'm not sure how well that would work as you have no way of regenerating the DPF.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do!
#Thanks for your answers. the dpf I found shall be a genuine LR one. Katalysator mit Rußpartikelfilter Land Rover FREELANDER I (LN) orig. LAND ROVER | eBay on ebay.
The green sticker you get if your car meets the Emission requirements which I think is Euro 3 or 4. not sure about that my FL with dpf would be one then. Will think about it as if they don't accept it might not make sense to waste the Money.
Best Regards
Matthias
The green sticker you get if your car meets the Emission requirements which I think is Euro 3 or 4. not sure about that my FL with dpf would be one then. Will think about it as if they don't accept it might not make sense to waste the Money.
Best Regards
Matthias
Hi Matthias - I think that unit has had it's approval withdrawn.
See the link on the D3 forum - DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Duff diesel particle filter
I can't see how that DPF works without being a closed loop system - maybe why the approval was withdrawn?
See the link on the D3 forum - DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Duff diesel particle filter
I can't see how that DPF works without being a closed loop system - maybe why the approval was withdrawn?
Nodge68
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I can't see why you would need to fit a dpf to use Freelander anywhere in Europe. The Freelander was type approved long before dpf's became the norm so like in the UK shouldn't need one retro fitted. It's not even that easy or practical to fit one ether. There are two types of dpf. There is the original type used some years ago now that was literally a filter for the exhaust, these need to be replaced at regular intervals or bad engine performance will result. The other type that is most common is a re-generating type. These require the use of common rail fuel injection. The TD4 uses an engine timed fuel pump so by design can't supply fuel timed to allow the dpf to re-generate. Common rail diesel engines re-generate the dpf at pre-set intervals by timing an additional fuel injection pulse during the exhaust stroke, this additional fuel then burns the soot off the dpf.
Wouldn't be easier to get a vehicle that was designed with low emissions output?
Wouldn't be easier to get a vehicle that was designed with low emissions output?
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sijwhite
Active Member
But the Freelander 1 is Euro 3 compliant as far as I know
Singvogel
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Your on a loser trying to fit a dpf to a FL1 to get a green sticker from TUV
TUV rules don't allow aftermarket fitting of such things to upgrade from a euro 3 to a euro 4.
They decide which colour of sticker you can have from the log-book emissions band - not from any 'illegal' mods you've made.
As it stands (as long as you haven't removed the cat) a TD4 engined Freelander will qualify for a yellow emissions sticker - available for €5 from any TUV testing station or even on-line before you go to Germany for €15 - they wont check the vehicle - only your docs.
The yellow gets you into all but the tightest restricted zones in the major city centres - where its a bu**er to drive or park anyway.
Park outside and use the Munich public transport system - it's brilliant.
German officials stick rigidly by the rules - you or me ain't going to change their minds.
For example tyres and wheels as said must all be as proscribed in your vehicle docs.
I had one hell of a job a few years back getting a tyre depot to fit a non standard tyre when I had a blow-out on the autobahn - 235/55 17 instead of 225/55 17. I had to visit 4 places before I found a fellow 'foreigner' who would do it.
They are sh*t scared of breaking rules - especially in Freistaat Bayern - the Free State of Bavaria
TUV rules don't allow aftermarket fitting of such things to upgrade from a euro 3 to a euro 4.
They decide which colour of sticker you can have from the log-book emissions band - not from any 'illegal' mods you've made.
As it stands (as long as you haven't removed the cat) a TD4 engined Freelander will qualify for a yellow emissions sticker - available for €5 from any TUV testing station or even on-line before you go to Germany for €15 - they wont check the vehicle - only your docs.
The yellow gets you into all but the tightest restricted zones in the major city centres - where its a bu**er to drive or park anyway.
Park outside and use the Munich public transport system - it's brilliant.
German officials stick rigidly by the rules - you or me ain't going to change their minds.
For example tyres and wheels as said must all be as proscribed in your vehicle docs.
I had one hell of a job a few years back getting a tyre depot to fit a non standard tyre when I had a blow-out on the autobahn - 235/55 17 instead of 225/55 17. I had to visit 4 places before I found a fellow 'foreigner' who would do it.
They are sh*t scared of breaking rules - especially in Freistaat Bayern - the Free State of Bavaria
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