jamesmartin
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personally i wouldnt use pattern bearings but you would have noticed something before it got that bad,and were they fitted correctly ,properly greased
Soloby Rob
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Looks to me to be a classic case of
Over tightening and lack of lubrication. Sorry.
Over tightening and lack of lubrication. Sorry.
Langers
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It'll be the last time I use Britpart. Allmakes seem to be OK though.
It was properly fitted and packed with plenty of grease, tightened correctly and I even checked it before setting off.
First I felt of it going was it violently dragging the vehicle to the left as it was trying to seize up.
jamesmartin
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you will probably find britpart sell cheapest timken bearings,how do you set them ?
Langers
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Probably, but these were the Britpart branded ones, the dirt cheap ones basically
Check for play, tighten by hand with box spanner until a tiny amount of play left, give hub a spin to bed it in a bit, and check again for amount of play.
Also, rear bearings on the same side were done at the same time, but after the M25 experience I got a set of Timkens and changed them today. The Britpart bearing in that wheel were still nicely greased but had scored the outer races badly.
I should also mention that the truck is running on 35" tyres with big offset on the rims which doesn't help
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jamesmartin
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when using your new bearings nip up bearings to seat them slacken off ,then tighten nut till freeplay is just removed you can feel it ,then fit washer and tighten second nut tight ,the second nut pushes on first and gives enough preload for bearings to run in and not be loose
Langers
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That's pretty much how we did do it to be honest. its just that that's the one wheel bearing that failed out of the 4 others which i have also done. And this was the britpart one (and the youngest).
jamesmartin
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timken is all i fit ,i had issuse a few years ago with pattern gear box bearings
Langers
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I didn't believe my friends when they were trying to explain just how bad the britpart wheel bearings are but from now on its only timkens that ill use!:fighting2:
jamesmartin
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you can split the nut with a cold chisel in about 3 hits
Langers
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Langers
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yep toooooooooo right , what a **** take that was, trying to undo nut.
:crazy: Obviously the nut wasn't done up that tightly... the heat from the bearing had literally welded it to the stub. Also the broken CV joint had destroyed the edge of the stub axle, which made it impossible to unscrew the nut.
There would be no way you could physically get the nut that tight... it would strip the threads way before you managed it :crazy:
the things i see on a daily basis pal , you wouldnt beleave what people do , so thats not really that true. plenty of people on here have used brit part bearings with no probs at all , as long as they are fitted right and checked for play a few weeks after use. nine times out of ten, a bearing fails from being over tighted and no lube ....... and you telling me that just failed like that , you didnt even notice **** all b4 hand , ye right......
Langers
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Sorry, who are you?
Yep that's what happened... all four bearings were done by me, all exactly the same, just this one decided it didn't want to be a wheel bearing any more.
As I said, the situation won't have been helped by a number of factors; big tyres, big offset, heavy truck and lots of off roading, but it is still an extremely poor performance to have only lasted 1,500 miles.
If you had actually bothered to read my other responses, you'll see that I did actually check the bearings for play right before I set off for the M25... this failure was astounding because it literally gave no warning that it was going to fail!
Another mate with an 88" S3, had Britpart bearings on and had the same thing happen recently -- one bearing basically went through the other; with the wheel pretty much coming off the vehicle.
The Britpart stuff just isn't up to the job, it is cheap but it's not worth it.
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Langers
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so if you think britpart stuff is so crap, why did you fit it
:suspicious: Logical fallacy
The answer is it's cheap - and you would expect it to be up to the bare minimum quality-wise. I don't do a lot of miles in my 110, so I thought Britpart would be sufficient and get me through a few years at University (where I am strapped enough for cash without Britpart **** wrecking other components of my vehicle).
You don't work for Britpart do you Mr Nobody?
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