Help please

Hy new to this forum and would like some help the problem I have got is I have a dicovery 300tdi 97 p plate when I start it up there is a gravelly/rattley noise coming from it but if I rev the engine or depress the clutch it go's if I then turn off and restart it its ok it only seems to do it when it's been stood and cold thanks for taking the time to read this

Regards chris

Hi, Chris...some questions to know where to start

1. Is the engine oil level good?(what oil and when did u replace it) ....if the level and the oil are OK, after the cold start does the oil pressure lamp extinguish instantly?

2. When did u replace the auxiliary belt?

sierrafery said:

Hi, Chris...some questions to know where to start

1. Is the engine oil level good?(what oil and when did u replace it) ....if the level and the oil are OK, after the cold start does the oil pressure lamp extinguish instantly?

2. When did u replace the auxiliary belt?

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hi oil level seems to be ok i have only just bought the vehicle so was planning on getting an oil change

chris

Have you had a diesel car before because they can rattle a bit on start up soon goes away. Diesel's can sound like a bag of bolts when cold.

Chrisnick said:

hi oil level seems to be ok i have only just bought the vehicle so was planning on getting an oil change

chris

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If the oil pressure lamp goes off right away after u started it u have no probs there...question nr 2 was cos it could be a play in one of the pulleys which dissapears after the aux. belt turns it a bit.

sierrafery said:

If the oil pressure lamp goes off right away after u started it u have no probs there...question nr 2 was cos it could be a play in one of the pulleys which dissapears after the aux. belt turns it a bit.

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I really appreciate your help but I'm not very technical I thought there would be a simple answer some one said it sounds like the thrust clutch bearing but it looks like I'll have to take it to a garage which sounds expensive

Chrisnick said:

some one said it sounds like the thrust clutch bearing

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Ok m8...could be that too....first of all put a fresh oil in it and see what happens.......anyway if it's just on cold start it's useless to go to a garage now cos there it wont be cold start again ....... if its some play in a pulley it will degenerate in time and will be easyer to diagnose.....good luck

If it goes by depressing the clutch as somebody has already said it could be the clutch thrust bearing,my dad used to have a transit that did the same after being stood.
Try pressing the clutch in before starting after it's been stood to see if you still have the noise then.

Chrisnick said:

Hy new to this forum and would like some help the problem I have got is I have a dicovery 300tdi 97 p plate when I start it up there is a gravelly/rattley noise coming from it but if I rev the engine or depress the clutch it go's if I then turn off and restart it its ok it only seems to do it when it's been stood and cold thanks for taking the time to read this

Regards chris

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No disrespect intended but it sounds like you are new to the wonderful world of Land Rover?

If the noise is only there on early cold morning starts I would worry about it too much, especially as it is not apparent if you depress the clutch. Incidentally, on early morning starts, you will help your engine if you depress and hold the clutch whilst starting the engine - release it once the engine has started.

It sounds like you have a slightly worn clutch thrust bearing, but cars will run for ages before giving you a problem - normally.

I only point this out as it is not a small job to replace this item as the gearbox and engine must be separated, which takes man-hours. Also, it is prudent to replace the whole clutch whilst the 2 are separated - quality clutch kits cost about £85 so that's not too bad but the labour charges will not be cheap.


Good luck

Dave

smarty1972 said:

Try pressing the clutch in before starting after it's been stood to see if you still have the noise then.

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That's "on the nose"

thanks for all your help ill let you know how i get on

regards chris

sierrafery said:

Hi, Chris...some questions to know where to start

1. Is the engine oil level good?(what oil and when did u replace it) ....if the level and the oil are OK, after the cold start does the oil pressure lamp extinguish instantly?

2. When did u replace the auxiliary belt?

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Sorry sierrafery but what the f£ck has either of those got to do with this problem

Hy new to this forum and would like some help the problem I have got is I have a dicovery 300tdi 97 p plate when I start it up there is a gravelly/rattley noise coming from it but if I rev the engine or depress the clutch it go's if I then turn off and restart it its ok it only seems to do it when it's been stood and cold thanks for taking the time to read this

thebiglad said:

No disrespect intended but it sounds like you are new to the wonderful world of Land Rover?

If the noise is only there on early cold morning starts I would worry about it too much, especially as it is not apparent if you depress the clutch. Incidentally, on early morning starts, you will help your engine if you depress and hold the clutch whilst starting the engine - release it once the engine has started.

It sounds like you have a slightly worn clutch thrust bearing, but cars will run for ages before giving you a problem - normally.

I only point this out as it is not a small job to replace this item as the gearbox and engine must be separated, which takes man-hours. Also, it is prudent to replace the whole clutch whilst the 2 are separated - quality clutch kits cost about £85 so that's not too bad but the labour charges will not be cheap.


Good luck

Dave

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No **** sherlock the clue's in the original post :doh: :doh:

oldskool said:

Hy new to this forum and would like some help the problem I have got is I have a dicovery 300tdi 97 p plate when I start it up there is a gravelly/rattley noise coming from it but if I rev the engine or depress the clutch it go's if I then turn off and restart it its ok it only seems to do it when it's been stood and cold thanks for taking the time to read this


No **** sherlock the clue's in the original post :doh: :doh:

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There was no need for that. He said he was new to the forum not LR's. Also I don't like assuming anything.

However I don't need to assume that you are an angry little shît - I now know.

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am getting a bit sick of all this popcorn

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:hysterically_laughi gimme sum of that popcorn pikey

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It's just gear noise, till a bit of oil gets about

Not a problem, mine does it and never gets any worse.

thebiglad said:

No disrespect intended but it sounds like you are new to the wonderful world of Land Rover?

If the noise is only there on early cold morning starts I would worry about it too much, especially as it is not apparent if you depress the clutch. Incidentally, on early morning starts, you will help your engine if you depress and hold the clutch whilst starting the engine - release it once the engine has started.

It sounds like you have a slightly worn clutch thrust bearing, but cars will run for ages before giving you a problem - normally.

I only point this out as it is not a small job to replace this item as the gearbox and engine must be separated, which takes man-hours. Also, it is prudent to replace the whole clutch whilst the 2 are separated - quality clutch kits cost about £85 so that's not too bad but the labour charges will not be cheap.


Good luck

Dave

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hi it turns out that it is the clutch thrust bearing so ive decided to keep running the vehicle cos the clutch is fine and if it go's ill just get it replaced then thanks for all the help, im sure ill be back with more questions

cheers chris