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Mike Romain
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That is by far the best option. All tires are a compromise! Around
here you can get cheap steel rims for the snow tires and just swap them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
derek wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the info guys. Basically looks like you need snow
> tires and looks/street tires. Thanks again!
>
> [email protected] (derek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Harry/Mike,
> >
> > Not to stead the thread, but I have lurked around these groups for 4
> > years or so and even though a ton of people agree with you, I just
> > want to know why. Seems to me a fat tire would be best since they
> > have the most rubber to surface area.
> >
> > I do think that if there was a surface, say asphalt, with powdered
> > snow on top, that a tall, skinny tire could get through the snow
> > easier to get the traction on the asphalt. But... If there was 4" of
> > ice under the snow, then I would have imagined that a larger print
> > would be better to stay on top of the snow and get whatever traction
> > was to be had.
> >
> > Just wondering how this works as I am in dire need of a new set of
> > tires. But, IMHO, the fatter tires look better on a full size rig
> > (2000 Silverado)
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > "HarryS" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Mike you are correct, tall and skinny are the best in snow, running
> > > 235/78-16 on my 4x4 ram with an aggressive tread. I through some real tough
> > > snow and my buds still haven't figured out wider isn't better when it comes
> > > to snow. I am running the stock 30" Goodyear's that came with my 04 TJ and
> > > they are good in the mud, sand and general purpose off road stuff but pale
> > > by comparison to the rams tires and traction in snow.
> > >
> > > HarryS
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >I off road a lot and run BFG muds on my CJ7 and BFG AT's on my Cherokee.
> > > >
> > > > Both are decent, but when it comes to snow and mud, the BFG 33x9.5 muds
> > > > just shine!
> > > >
> > > > Lots of folks laugh at my tall skinny tires... once..... Then they sit
> > > > there with their jaws open trying and trying to get to where I am taking
> > > > photos of them trying and trying to follow me.
> > > >
> > > > The tall skinny tires don't spin so I leave tread marks through the mud
> > > > and snow and up sand pit walls while all the folks with big fat tires
> > > > leave rooster tail marks.
> > > >
> > > > Another Jeep with lockers front and rear and 12.5" muds can 'almost'
> > > > keep up to me with my open diffs on winter runs. He usually only has to
> > > > take one or two runs at the hills to get up there.
> > > >
> > > > If you look at the folks that work in the bush, you will see tall skinny
> > > > tires on the trucks that 'have' to be there, not just joyride.
> > > >
> > > > My $0.02,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Jim wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I was wondering if anyone had off-road tire recommendations for a 1996
> > > >> Ford F350 with a 7.3 Diesel.
> > > >> My application is truthfully all-purpose, but with a very heavy
> > > >> weight towards off-road mud, steep inclines, and in particular...snow.
> > > >> I do take the truck to home depot, etc but I couldn't care any less
> > > >> about road noise, traction, or tire wear on the street. I am most
> > > >> concerned with off-road performance when I camp in the mountains.
> > > >> Currently, I have some "Ridge Runner M/S Radial" tires in 285-75R16.
> > > >> They seem to work okay in axle deep mud, and loose rocks uphill, but I
> > > >> think they have very poor performance in snow, tending to float on the
> > > >> top, rather than dig in a bit towards harder snow. Mind you, I don't
> > > >> want a skinny tire to dig all the way in...some of this snow is really
> > > >> deep!
> > > >> Recently I was trying to go up a short run of about 50 degree slope
> > > >> at somewhat of an angle. I couldn't get the traction needed even on
> > > >> that dry ground with these tires, and a run-up was out of the question
> > > >> on the tight trail.
> > > >> I may be pushing the limits of a wheeled vehicle with some of this,
> > > >> but I think better tires will make a marked improvement.
> > > >> The Michelin XL 'looks' like it would grab in most anything, but I
> > > >> can't find anybody with any experience with them.
> > > >> Any suggestions?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Jim
here you can get cheap steel rims for the snow tires and just swap them.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
derek wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the info guys. Basically looks like you need snow
> tires and looks/street tires. Thanks again!
>
> [email protected] (derek) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Harry/Mike,
> >
> > Not to stead the thread, but I have lurked around these groups for 4
> > years or so and even though a ton of people agree with you, I just
> > want to know why. Seems to me a fat tire would be best since they
> > have the most rubber to surface area.
> >
> > I do think that if there was a surface, say asphalt, with powdered
> > snow on top, that a tall, skinny tire could get through the snow
> > easier to get the traction on the asphalt. But... If there was 4" of
> > ice under the snow, then I would have imagined that a larger print
> > would be better to stay on top of the snow and get whatever traction
> > was to be had.
> >
> > Just wondering how this works as I am in dire need of a new set of
> > tires. But, IMHO, the fatter tires look better on a full size rig
> > (2000 Silverado)
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > "HarryS" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Mike you are correct, tall and skinny are the best in snow, running
> > > 235/78-16 on my 4x4 ram with an aggressive tread. I through some real tough
> > > snow and my buds still haven't figured out wider isn't better when it comes
> > > to snow. I am running the stock 30" Goodyear's that came with my 04 TJ and
> > > they are good in the mud, sand and general purpose off road stuff but pale
> > > by comparison to the rams tires and traction in snow.
> > >
> > > HarryS
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >I off road a lot and run BFG muds on my CJ7 and BFG AT's on my Cherokee.
> > > >
> > > > Both are decent, but when it comes to snow and mud, the BFG 33x9.5 muds
> > > > just shine!
> > > >
> > > > Lots of folks laugh at my tall skinny tires... once..... Then they sit
> > > > there with their jaws open trying and trying to get to where I am taking
> > > > photos of them trying and trying to follow me.
> > > >
> > > > The tall skinny tires don't spin so I leave tread marks through the mud
> > > > and snow and up sand pit walls while all the folks with big fat tires
> > > > leave rooster tail marks.
> > > >
> > > > Another Jeep with lockers front and rear and 12.5" muds can 'almost'
> > > > keep up to me with my open diffs on winter runs. He usually only has to
> > > > take one or two runs at the hills to get up there.
> > > >
> > > > If you look at the folks that work in the bush, you will see tall skinny
> > > > tires on the trucks that 'have' to be there, not just joyride.
> > > >
> > > > My $0.02,
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Jim wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I was wondering if anyone had off-road tire recommendations for a 1996
> > > >> Ford F350 with a 7.3 Diesel.
> > > >> My application is truthfully all-purpose, but with a very heavy
> > > >> weight towards off-road mud, steep inclines, and in particular...snow.
> > > >> I do take the truck to home depot, etc but I couldn't care any less
> > > >> about road noise, traction, or tire wear on the street. I am most
> > > >> concerned with off-road performance when I camp in the mountains.
> > > >> Currently, I have some "Ridge Runner M/S Radial" tires in 285-75R16.
> > > >> They seem to work okay in axle deep mud, and loose rocks uphill, but I
> > > >> think they have very poor performance in snow, tending to float on the
> > > >> top, rather than dig in a bit towards harder snow. Mind you, I don't
> > > >> want a skinny tire to dig all the way in...some of this snow is really
> > > >> deep!
> > > >> Recently I was trying to go up a short run of about 50 degree slope
> > > >> at somewhat of an angle. I couldn't get the traction needed even on
> > > >> that dry ground with these tires, and a run-up was out of the question
> > > >> on the tight trail.
> > > >> I may be pushing the limits of a wheeled vehicle with some of this,
> > > >> but I think better tires will make a marked improvement.
> > > >> The Michelin XL 'looks' like it would grab in most anything, but I
> > > >> can't find anybody with any experience with them.
> > > >> Any suggestions?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Jim
