Rear window problems

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Hi all,

I'll start off by saying that I'm not exactly knowledgable when it comes to Freelanders (or any other car)... but I'm hoping someone might be able to give some friendly advice :).

This morning I put the rear window down in my Freelander as I was going to let the car dry out for the day (seems to be leakin in the boot somewhere). As I put the window down there was a bit of a gritty crunch noise, so I tried to put it back up, but it would only go about half the way up. When I press the switch, I can hear the 'motor' (i know that's not the correct term, please don't take the pi$$) trying to pull the window up, but nothing's happening. I also noticed that the rear wiper seems to be sat a bit more on the glass, but i couldn't make it stay sat on the rubber.

Please can anyone help? I don't want to take it to a garage straight away... I'm sick of being ripped off, so wanted to get an idea of what the problem might be first.

Thanks :)
 
It could be your window regulator, or could be that the mechanism caught on loose wires which happes quite a bit. I snapped the contacts for the heater filaments lately because they caught on some wires. Real pain in the arse.

If you don't want to get ripped off best pick up a Hayne's manual and invest in some decent tools. We'll be here if you get stuck.
 
WLJayne said:
It could be your window regulator, or could be that the mechanism caught on loose wires which happes quite a bit. I snapped the contacts for the heater filaments lately because they caught on some wires. Real pain in the arse.

If you don't want to get ripped off best pick up a Hayne's manual and invest in some decent tools. We'll be here if you get stuck.
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:) thanks... in the mean time, any ideas on how on earth I gt the window back up?
 
take the door trim off undo the window bolts and lift the window up either tape it in place or wedge it up with some wood or fix the problem while the trim is off lol
 
You will have to get your spanners out and take the trim off to have a look. Like I said, you can either take it to a garage and get charged £40/h labor or DIY. Something is jamming it, and you or the garage will have to remove that jam. Because there are a few possibilities as to what could be causing it I can't tell you where to start. But you won't get the window up until you clear the obstruction or replace the broken part.

Welcome to Freelander ownership.
 
WLJayne said:
You will have to get your spanners out and take the trim off to have a look. Like I said, you can either take it to a garage and get charged £40/h labor or DIY. Something is jamming it, and you or the garage will have to remove that jam. Because there are a few possibilities as to what could be causing it I can't tell you where to start. But you won't get the window up until you clear the obstruction or replace the broken part.

Welcome to Freelander ownership.
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ah b****ks... did I mention I'm a girl?! Lol... I'm not entirely useless.. i fixed the boot handle a few weeks back (honest!)...

As much as I love my Freelander... it really is a big heap of problems. Clutch and flywheel went 4 days after I bought it too :(
 
4x4Newbie said:
ah b****ks... did I mention I'm a girl?! Lol... I'm not entirely useless.. i fixed the boot handle a few weeks back (honest!)...

As much as I love my Freelander... it really is a big heap of problems. Clutch and flywheel went 4 days after I bought it too :(
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Doesn't matter if you're a girl, most jobs don't require especially high levels of brute force. In fact my girlfriend can get to fiddlier bolts better than I can.

Also most guys pretend to kow about cars but they're really just tyre kickers, and because you're not going into it falsely thinking that you're god's gift to cars you'll take advice better and follow instructions properly. Watching Top Gear makes you a mechanic about as much as watching Grand Designs makes you an architect. I had no idea when I started (had nice bombproof honda hatch) but the Hayne's manual and this forum set me on the right path. You can buy most of the tools you need for about £150.00 but look at your garage bills and suddenly that doesn't seem so much. Also if you do your own regular servicing you will save hundreds per year and your car will be happier. Your new clutch will last and that's a big job out of the way, mostly just niggles now I expect.

What I'm saying is that Land Rover, and especially Freelanders have zero tolerance for sloppy work and sub-standard working practices. The only way you can guarentee that the person who is doing the work is doing it properly and with care is if that person is you. Also there may be someone in your local area who can help you along, I've made some good friends through this forum.

Will.
 
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WLJayne said:
Doesn't matter if you're a girl, most jobs don't require especially high levels of brute force. In fact my girlfriend can get to fiddlier bolts better than I can.

Also most guys pretend to kow about cars but they're really just tyre kickers, and because you're not going into it falsely thinking that you're god's gift to cars you'll take advice better and follow instructions properly. Watching Top Gear makes you a mechanic about as much as watching Grand Designs makes you an architect. I had no idea when I started (had nice bombproof honda hatch) but the Hayne's manual and this forum set me on the right path. You can buy most of the tools you need for about £150.00 but look at your garage bills and suddenly that doesn't seem so much. Also if you do your own regular servicing you will save hundreds per year and your car will be happier. Your new clutch will last and that's a big job out of the way, mostly just niggles now I expect.

What I'm saying is that Land Rover, and especially Freelanders have zero tolerance for sloppy work and sub-standard working practices. The only way you can guarentee that the person who is doing the work is doing it properly and with care is if that person is you. Also there may be someone in your local area who can help you along, I've made some good friends through this forum.

Will.
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:) well that made me feel a lot better!! I was considering doing a service on it, but assumed I probably wouldn't be able to do it. Do you think you can learn to do most things yourself?

Might pop out and see if I can find a Hayne's manual... this needs sorting as we're due a load of rain tonight and tomo!

On the plus side, Freelander towed my horse in his trailer like a wee dream yesterday :)
 
97-03 Models Haynes Manual

03-06 Models Haynes Manual

Neither of these cover TD4 engine procedures but you can get all that help here, but the rest is there. TD4 is usually fine anyway.

You can absolutely learn to service the car yourself - oil, filters and spark plugs are really easy with the right tools. I did my own head gasket (with a some help from another member here) and I've done tons of gremlin hunting. I've even completely redesigned my cooling system to be fully digital which is a biot of an experiment and still a work in progress but the theory is sound. I got my 2004 1.8 SE in March this year, to put this in context. Never touched an enginhe before that and threw hundreds at my Civic every year in garages.

Don't think you can't or it'll be harder because you're a girl, you got no more or less ability than any mechanically inexperienced man.

Will.
 
WLJayne said:
97-03 Models Haynes Manual

03-06 Models Haynes Manual

Neither of these cover TD4 engine procedures but you can get all that help here, but the rest is there. TD4 is usually fine anyway.

You can absolutely learn to service the car yourself - oil, filters and spark plugs are really easy with the right tools. I did my own head gasket (with a some help from another member here) and I've done tons of gremlin hunting. I've even completely redesigned my cooling system to be fully digital which is a biot of an experiment and still a work in progress but the theory is sound. I got my 2004 1.8 SE in March this year, to put this in context. Never touched an enginhe before that and threw hundreds at my Civic every year in garages.

Don't think you can't or it'll be harder because you're a girl, you got no more or less ability than any mechanically inexperienced man.

Will.
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Thanks Will, I will do some reading and give it a go :), may also get the OH involved, about time he learnt how to service a car!!

Mine's a 2002 (02 plate) TD4... will the Haynes manuals still cover everything for servicing this model? Take it it's just engine stuff it doesn't cover?
 
4x4Newbie said:
Thanks Will, I will do some reading and give it a go :), may also get the OH involved, about time he learnt how to service a car!!

Mine's a 2002 (02 plate) TD4... will the Haynes manuals still cover everything for servicing this model? Take it it's just engine stuff it doesn't cover?
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I also serviced my girlfriends Seat Ibiza recently which saved her about £150, so it's a great skill to have and can be applied to most cars - they may look different but all wear the same pants for the most part.

Yes only engine procedures for TD4 aren't covered, every other system is covered though you will probably need to get clarification on some issues on the forum. But between the two you should be able to fix most problems. Almost every used Freelander has to be "renovated" to some extent before it's a trouble free motor as they are very vulnerasble to neglect related damage. But you'll get there even if it does take a few months and a steepish learning curve. The Haynes has a great shopping list of tools to help you get started. £200 will get you a pretty comprehensive tool kit. Machinemart is a good place to go for that suff.
 
WLJayne said:
I also serviced my girlfriends Seat Ibiza recently which saved her about £150, so it's a great skill to have and can be applied to most cars - they may look different but all wear the same pants for the most part.

Yes only engine procedures for TD4 aren't covered, every other system is covered though you will probably need to get clarification on some issues on the forum. But between the two you should be able to fix most problems. Almost every used Freelander has to be "renovated" to some extent before it's a trouble free motor as they are very vulnerasble to neglect related damage. But you'll get there even if it does take a few months and a steepish learning curve.
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Awesome... I'm going to attempt to take the back door panel off now... I might need to post pics of what i find...!
 
4x4Newbie said:
Awesome... I'm going to attempt to take the back door panel off now... I might need to post pics of what i find...!
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Careful you don't force anything, there are some screws to undo on the underside of the panel and the you can gently pull it off from the bottom. There are little locator plugs that can snap if you aren't careful. I've had mine off three or four times now and I've still got to put that new window in :rolleyes:.

Oh and the gum that holds the insulation on is easy to pull off when it's warmed up a little with a hair dryer or something and then you can just stick it back on when you're done.
 
So I pulled the panel off... and there's a polystyrene-type foam cover that's stuck on so I can't see anything... any idea how I get that off without destroying it?!
 
4x4Newbie said:
Ah... just seen yer post... hairdryer it is then!! Neighbours will think I'm rather odd...
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I check my coolant level before every journey, you will get used to your next door's thinking you're odd. Don't go mad with the hiar dryer just needs to be a bit warm not melted!
 
Freelaner said:
Dunt forget to check it during and after anorl :eek:;)
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On long journeys I do, though it looks like my slow loss problems were just down to a loose hose clip on the EWP - haven't seen a drop for a few weeks. But then I haven't seen the car for a few weeks either :(.

I swear mate I miss that car more'n I miss the missus when she's away during the week :eek:. But then this is the same missus who buys me an LRO 12 month sub and then tells me "yer can't have any moar Landy's!" two weeks later. Talk about conflicting signals :eek:!

Nah she's a sweetie really ;).
 
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