Q : Front Recovery Points

Mr Noisy said:

consider focusing on rear recovery, instead of pulling yourself deeper

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That applies ter fat lasses too!

nice

JATE rings

where do they fit on the front - cant see anywhere on my disco .

mind yu - it was too wet to crawl underneath too far .

The Mad Hat Man said:

where do they fit on the front - cant see anywhere on my disco .

mind yu - it was too wet to crawl underneath too far .

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uses the same holes that the bumper attaches to




i used them before i got my winch bumper

twodoor said:

also seen a number of recovery agents put a strop around an axle and drag the vehicles up near vertical embankments and not necessarily with the wheels pointing the right way....

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The reason for this is that most cars these days are fitted with screw in towing eyes that are only able to be pulled at a maximum angle of 15 degs. They sheer off or pull out for a past time during recovery. I've suspended cars by axles and sub frames. I've also bent and ripped out axles and sub frames. It all depends on the situation with each and every car. I would only use the axle of a 4x4 to recover it as a last resort. I actually carry a pair of jate rings both in my landy and in my recovery truck especially for pulling out bogged vehicles with rubbish or no recovery points.

Anyone got any views on 'Good' sand anchors to pull yourself towards the good stuff....

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I made my own.

I cut 5 lengths of 18 inch to 2 foot angle iron and drilled in the top and sharpened the other end to a point. These are then hammered into the ground in a V shape and joined using D or bow shckles and a length of chain.

V8_Disco said:

uses the same holes that the bumper attaches to

i used them before i got my winch bumper

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Hows the jate ring set up work in regard of the crush cans at that location though....

twodoor said:

Hows the jate ring set up work in regard of the crush cans at that location though....

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i dont know what you mean, crumple zones? if your worried about them you bought the wrong vehicle, i dont even think discos have them as if there was a designed in weak point that is going to fail during an accident then surely bolting a huge winch to the front is a bad idea, i could be wrong tho

V8_Disco said:

i dont know what you mean, crumple zones? if your worried about them you bought the wrong vehicle, i dont even think discos have them as if there was a designed in weak point that is going to fail during an accident then surely bolting a huge winch to the front is a bad idea, i could be wrong tho

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I got the impression they were tied into the airbag system... I know the bull bar/winch setup is all airbag compliant and works around the crush cans (where chassis/bumper connection meets) I was thinking that if the jates interfere with this then if there were to be an accident and crush cans airbag doesn't do it's job... apart from potential injuries then old insurance mob may not be too happy on paying out for 'an interefered with system...

Not overly intending having a prang BUT Kangeroo strikes are far too common.... with devastating results...

Go on then, enlighten us... what sort of disco have you got then???

lerk said:

Go on then, enlighten us... what sort of disco have you got then???

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Sorry, thought my profile info was on there.. Just a Disco 2, V8, 2000.
I'm in Australia so maybe to get the vehicles through our ADR Compliance other stuff was added on/ removed...

For example you get a plate if the vehicle is a 5 seater and need it re-complying if it became 7 and vice versa... stupid but money making as the vehicle is then put into a sub class for rego purposes (more seats=more money) and so on.

So if you did something out of compliance there is the rego implication, the non compliance and also the insurance issues...

i dont really know the differences between the disco 1 and 2 in terms on chassis design, as the regs are so harsh over there. are you able to fit a HD front bumper with recovery eyes? that is the best way to get recovery points on a disco 2 IMO

From what's being siad I would say that a steering guard with built in recovery eyes would be the best bet.

ratty said:

From what's being siad I would say that a steering guard with built in recovery eyes would be the best bet.

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:doh::doh::doh:
forgot about them , that would be the best bet and probs the cheapest

V8_Disco said:

:doh::doh::doh:
forgot about them , that would be the best bet and probs the cheapest

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Surely Jate's would be cheaper and use the same mounting points so if a steering guard is ok then so's jate rings

lol, takes you guys a while to come to a conclusion!

Just to stir things up even more though; have a look at where a standard front bumper bolts to the end of the chassis - is there not a 4"ish bit that looks like it's made to crush in the event of an accident?

Luckily though, jate rings or a steering guard bolt onto the chassis as opposed to this crushable bit (strange that) so problem solved.

Thin_trucker said:

lol, takes you guys a while to come to a conclusion!

Just to stir things up even more though; have a look at where a standard front bumper bolts to the end of the chassis - is there not a 4"ish bit that looks like it's made to crush in the event of an accident?

Luckily though, jate rings or a steering guard bolt onto the chassis as opposed to this crushable bit (strange that) so problem solved.

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dont have a disco 2 so cant do that

jate rings if your on a daft budget
if you can get a steering guard with 2 shackles on it as it will give some protections aswell

Ah, fair point, I meant disco 1 - I know mine's got them - maybe disco 2s have the same.

V8_Disco said:

dont have a disco 2 so cant do that

jate rings if your on a daft budget
if you can get a steering guard with 2 shackles on it as it will give some protections aswell

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it will also help prevent you bending or stretching your chassis as it will act as a brace for the chassis rails.

I'd say the bumper is the only crushable on a disco.

Ladder chassis designs don't have integral crush zones, sorry mr pedestrian, we need brutal amounts of strength for tackling boulders.

That of course means you're gonna make one he'll of a mess of that brand new porsche when you plough into it winch n all!

but hey ho, drive slow (I do )

I crashed into a tree in the snow at Christmas, was on a country lane so it was a low key accident tbh, 15mph or so.

Luckily I smacked the tree head on with the drivers chassis rail , inches to the left or right and the standard rusty bumper would have folded out of the way and the tree would have ripped a large portion of the body off - my car and my holiday woul have been ruined.

As I say, luckily, the chassis stopped the car, giving me a broken grille and headlamp trim, and a ridiculous looking bumper!

Even luckier still, this accident got the ball rolling for me to build the disco into an off roader, which comprises a hefty bumper up front that would take a lot of bending.

I'm glad of it, without the bumper the vehicle and occupants are very vulnerable to everything mounted to the body being rearranged around the footwells...

Sorry for waffling