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most pointless thread ever!
Petition to stop the split of Land Rover and Range Rover
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mattstevenson2005
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Your right!! didn't want it to turn into a ranting thread!!
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I am SO FED UP with people whining about cheap labour overseas! Forget about economic arguments, at least get the facts right! Which are the two largest automobile manufacturing countries today? Japan and USA. Which one has cheap labour / no worker protection and everything else that's always moaned about? Thought so. Now STFU!!!
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I have worked for BAe on several occasions in several locations most shut or closing now, and a more unhelpful,unproductive and militant workforce I have yet to meet.
H&S had nothing to do with there inefficiency
Strange how Honda,Toyota and Nissan using British workers in new factories and modern work ethecs outstrip the good old British motor industry.
Just a thought......
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Oh it does my friend. It hinders the good workers and gives the idle gits something to hide behind. There is a world of difference between throwing a car together and building an aircraft.
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When you think about it the split makes perfect economic sense. Range Rover has the potential to be an upmarket brand with healthy profit margins to be had from cheaper manufacture with lot of room to expand downward like merc or BMW. Think Freelander with a Range Rover 1 badge
LR is a back to basic workhorse that will find it difficult to survive against Tata's own and other Korean/asian products. Sentimentality will keep it going for a while in Commonwealth countries but as long as it is produced in Solihull its going to be too expensive to compete at the bottom end of the market.
I may be wrong but I'd say a profit break down would make grim reading in the defender column unless the utility market is keeping it afloat.
As for H&S, I've worked for the last 20 years in construction and its getting farcical now. Here in Ireland things needed a shake up in the late 80's/early 90's fair enough but its gone so far the other way that you nearly need training to be qualified to fart these day, not to mention the method statements and hazard sheets you have to fill out before you let one off!!
LR is a back to basic workhorse that will find it difficult to survive against Tata's own and other Korean/asian products. Sentimentality will keep it going for a while in Commonwealth countries but as long as it is produced in Solihull its going to be too expensive to compete at the bottom end of the market.
I may be wrong but I'd say a profit break down would make grim reading in the defender column unless the utility market is keeping it afloat.
As for H&S, I've worked for the last 20 years in construction and its getting farcical now. Here in Ireland things needed a shake up in the late 80's/early 90's fair enough but its gone so far the other way that you nearly need training to be qualified to fart these day, not to mention the method statements and hazard sheets you have to fill out before you let one off!!
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Good old BAe - I had one of the best apprenticeships yu could get at the time - 5 years of invaluable knowledge. Worked on everything from the Gunbus, Varsity, one-eleven, Concorde, Jaguar, MRCA and many more. You just cant get that experience any more
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Good old BAe - I had one of the best apprenticeships yu could get at the time - 5 years of invaluable knowledge. Worked on everything from the Gunbus, Varsity, one-eleven, Concorde, Jaguar, MRCA and many more. You just cant get that experience any more
MRCA only a few would know what that is. Calling it that you must have worked on it in the seventies.
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Multi Role Combat AircraftMRCA only a few would know what that is. Calling it that you must have worked on it in the seventies.
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Multi Role Combat Aircraft
Yeah laterly the Tornado. Smart arse. He has me worried with the Gunbus though. Unless he's about 110 years old.
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Apprenticeship at BAe Weybridge - 1967-71. We made replica gunbus and vimy. Vimy was burnt out later and rebuilt. Those were the days when VC10's and one elevens still took off from Weybridge to go to Wisley for fitting out. Happy days .
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Just how old are you MHM?
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Apprenticeship at BAe Weybridge - 1967-71. We made replica gunbus and vimy. Vimy was burnt out later and rebuilt. Those were the days when VC10's and one elevens still took off from Weybridge to go to Wisley for fitting out. Happy days
Yeah we did a Spity for battle of Britain flight. PS 915. Interesting aircraft.
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Well.... If i was an apprentice between '67 and '71 how old do yu think I am?
If it helps, i missed the TSR2 by 3 weeks. They took them out on the peri track and cut them in pieces - all the jigs too
. Apparently grown men cried uke:.
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Well.... If i was an apprentice between '67 and '71 how old do yu think I am?
If it helps, i missed the TSR2 by 3 weeks. They took them out on the peri track and cut them in pieces - all the jigs too
It was that ffing idiot Wilson that cancelled the TSR2, it was a world beating aircraft, I had a mate who was working on it, he was well ****ed off, especially as it cost him his job
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Well.... If i was an apprentice between '67 and '71 how old do yu think I am?
If it helps, i missed the TSR2 by 3 weeks. They took them out on the peri track and cut them in pieces - all the jigs too
Yeah they did the same with them at Samlesbury. It was like murdering your own child one guy who worked on them told me.
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Well.... If i was an apprentice between '67 and '71 how old do yu think I am?
If it helps, i missed the TSR2 by 3 weeks. They took them out on the peri track and cut them in pieces - all the jigs too
58 ish.
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That'l do
