New vcu, you've got to be kidding!

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Litch

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Thought the VCU on my wife's 2006 TD4 (64K miles) was getting a bit stiff so I thought I would replace it just to be on the safe side. Ordered a new GKN unit & GKN bearings a couple of weeks ago but due to the snow I put it off until this weekend.

Saturday morning I set about it and apart from the front prop being fairly well stuck on the splines it all went very well. All done I took it for a trundle around the estate and I was a bit disconcerted to find that it felt just as tight and indeed when turning on full lock the rear tyes were slipping on the tarmac which is something they hadn't done before. In addition, when I got it on the open road I discovered that from 50MPH onward I had a vibration which was never there before. As there was little else I could do I checked the alignment of the VCU and tried it again but it remained the same. What a pain, give up and have lunch!!!!!
Sunday, day of rest & visiting family.
Monday I thought I would try a process of elimination to discover if it was the new VCU at fault or if perhaps I had damaged one of the props (knocked a weight off or something?). Front prop only, vibration still there as before. Rear prop only, vibration still there but slightly reduced. No props fitted, no vibration.
Ok, the fault appeared to be with the new VCU or bearings so I decided to put the old VCU back on. One of the original bearings is a bit noisy but still runs ok and is only on there while I carry out the comparrison. Old VCU & bearings, all ok with no vibration.

The only thing I could possibly have done wrong on assembly was to somehow damage the new bearings or fit them incorrectly but on both counts I am certain I didn't (to be honest, it isn't rocket science) and with all parts being new and the surfaces being clean & smooth they went on very nicely. One thing that did strike me as strange when I was fitting the new VCU was that it seemed tighter than the old one. Using a bar through the UJ I found it almost impossible to turn the new VCU but when I did the same to the old one, while still being difficult it wasn't so tight.
I'm stumped now and the only thing I can think of is that the VCU is unbalanced (maybe this ties up with it being so tight?) however before I reject it and speak to the supplier I am going to check the bearings but it all looks ok and indeed it isn't until over 50MPH that any imbalance can be noticed.

Anyone else had a similar issue?
I have done a search and read of a couple of cases but those seemed to be down to poor quality bearings being used.


As a postscript, I think that the original VCU was probably perfectly servicable anyway. Ok a bearing is worn and is in need of replacement but the VCU turns ok so maybe all this was for no purpose anyway!
 
That's what i'm doing tomorrow morning but was just wondering if anyone else had come across potentially faulty units?
 
Did you use the flange on the VCU behind the bearings to support the VCU when putting the bearings on?

There's a number of "outfits" selling reconditioned VCU's or varying quality which are stamped GKN. Truth is it was a GKN VCU prior to this. Once they've reconditioned it (or said they have reconditioned it to a spec only GKN know of) it's no longer GKN. What condition is the VCU in? Does it look new or painted new?
 
with hindsite there could also be another fault with the FL that wasn't apparent before, such as a faulty diff or ird unit.
 
How much did you pay for it? I'm looking for a new VCU at the moment. You can PM me if you prefer not to say on the forum.
 
The fact that you put the old VCU and worn bearings back on and had the same (relative trouble free) ride as before clearly indicates that the new VCU (and/or support bearings) is faulty. I have just been through this and I was worried about damaging the UJs when trying to get the front prop off but despite heavy treatment with a stone chisel and hammer I have a perfectly vibration-free drive train.
 
not necessarily so
the old one was worn so it would run smoother with it on

the new one is.........well new and would show up any faults in the rest of the system, imho
 
Test the VCU's with the One Wheel Up Test but do it on a bench instead if you have them off the car. The new one should turn quicker than the old one, with the same length bar and weight used. Unless your old one wasn't to correct spec. If so then it may be too loose to allow drive through it when the props rotate at different speeds and activate the VCU.
 
Another question... is there a date on the VCU or the packaging? Or any number stamped on it which would reference year/month of manufacture?
 
I as usual , did not read the whole OP . I don't buy into this knackered VCU mantra . I reckon knackered Universal Joints (UJ) might cause some problems ,that get diagnosed as shagged vcu .
 
I as usual , did not read the whole OP . I don't buy into this knackered VCU mantra . I reckon knackered Universal Joints (UJ) might cause some problems ,that get diagnosed as shagged vcu .


Not so much on Gaylanders as the Prop shafts dont travel too much. in fact the front one has little or no traverse as it is attached at both ends, one to the IRD and the other to the VCU/Body. Not sure of suspension travel, but dont think it is that great.
 
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