Mayflower/fairey, PTO, drum winch

hi all, i have a mayflower pto drum winch fitted to my series IIA, nice bit of kit, would pull a house down!! but saying that i've hardly used the dam thing, bought it as more of a thing to have rather than need, so seriously considering selling the little beauty, reasons being-
*weighs a ton!
*not really needed!
*fancy an overdrive!
so, what do you guys think she's worth?
good condition, lick of paint and she'd be like new, even has an original brass plaque.
Also, how much should i look at paying for an overdrive?
many thanks

they're not worth owt. I'll take orf your hands if ya like though ......

if you have complete kit ,£300 i would think,have a look at doing rear diff 3.54

you mean keep the mayflower and change the diffs? i've read a little about that, range rover diffs?
whats the score on that then?
thanks!

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overdrive going rate about 250, 200 if your lucky.

wanna see the winch tho

on the job nrgserv!!

i'll try getting under her at the shafts to the transfer box,

tomorrow! lol

whats kind of annoying is i had a landy that came with them style brackets at the sides
of the winch, but never found out which winch they fitted. it also had the pto drive
on the gearbox but no shafts.
presume to reverse it, you select reverse gear on main gearbox?
and does it have a free spool facility or has it to be driven both ways?

yea the big lever on the left of the drum is the free spool/in gear lever,
or as you say can reverse it out with reverse, handy for lowering yourself down an incline or whatever,
also reels in through the gears, obviously getting faster as you go up, what makes it really good is having a hand throttle, as i do!
i think it looks lush on the landy, the other massive benefit in my opinion over an electric winch is the theft factory, would take a while to get her off between everything, then you also have to lift her!! lol

you say had the brackets etc.. not got them now?

newlad said:

you say had the brackets etc.. not got them now?

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lost one bracket on a chassis swap at the bottom of me mother's garden. it got lost in the undergrowth....
have another rover now, but removed the remaining bracket from previous motor, and consequently lost that one in the workshop somewhere.

the gearbox got "loaned" to a mate on the instruction that if he sold the motor to remove the pto from it.
he sold it and didnt remove it. needless to say, he's now an ex mate

shame they really are getting rare, i dunno what the part is called that goes into the transfer box but mine leaks a bit of oil, subsiquently dropping the level in my transfer and gear box, if we have any kind of summer hope to remedie this, (not got any inside space to work so i depend on the weather)
i'll have to strip her down and try to sorce parts or like for like parts at least, should only be a seal anyway.
i'll try getting some action shots when i get round to it, some scary power in her, not easy to use solo as you need to be in the cab really, oh yea, you can also reel in as you drive, well crawl forward, if this wouldn't pull you out i dunno what would! lol

newlad said:

some scary power in her, not easy to use solo as you need to be in the cab really,

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got to be easier solo than the capstan i currently have!
and thats got some awesome pulling power!

yea, its ok on your own, would be even better with nylon as apposed to wire rope as you need to help it wind on,
how do capstan work then?
does it connect to the crank?
pics would be good, i suppose you could have overdrive with that also?

newlad said:

yea, its ok on your own, would be even better with nylon as apposed to wire rope as you need to help it wind on,
how do capstan work then?
does it connect to the crank?
pics would be good, i suppose you could have overdrive with that also?

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capstans initially designed for pulling boats out of water. driven off the
crankshaft front pulley, they have a dog clutch that engages with a
modified cranking handle dog. a lever pulls a linkage in and out to engage / disengage. (currently not fitted on mine as the dog's a unf thread and i have a metric thread 19j engine fitted).
same gearing principle as yours, but turning a vertical drum. idea being a rope (there is a particular diameter, but i can remember it) is wrapped round once, one end tied to the thing your hauling and the other is held by the operator. as the operater applies tension, the rope bites onto the drum and pulls, if the operator lets it slack off, the rope slips on the drum action as a crude clutch.
i didnt know this before i bought and fitted it, and found out thru trial an error.
nearly had a nasty accident when pulling a ton and half concrete pipe into position for someone.- had parked agin a tree to stop landy being pulled down a hill, pipe tied to winch, pulled into hill (endways), pipe fills with earth, keeps coming, tried to disengage dog clutch, too much tension, snaps lever, unable to turn off, 24mm towrope i was using is like a bowstring, runs round an jumps in landy an switched engine off.
pipe stuck, rope under massive tension, tree in way, cant reverse..........
very carefully positioned rope over capstan so a good pull will release it from the drum. kept well away from all slack and tugged. fair flew with the whiplash as 20 foot of rope dissapeared back thru the rollers.
fitted an engine kill switch on the front after that, but still dont like using it really. takes too many hands to operate for owt other than pulling boats. (which is what it were designed for really, guess i'm just abusing it cos its there)
oh, and for the capstan people, the shear pins had been replaced with steel, instead of brass ones. (not by me....)

edit.
yep, can be used with overdrive, and will take some piccies next time i'm in the workshop.

under the drum itself.