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Pressure will only be reduced while the xxx is filling because of reduced flow, once full, pressure will be the same both sides of the stop cock.

J
Nothing fills, all appliances work directly off the mains. I do not have any tanks anywhere. The only thing I have now done is have a prv fitted into the pipewok supplying the (second) ch boiler. This was done when my boiler engineer discovered the problem was the mains pressure!
 
Not sure if there's a fred for dadvice here but wife sick in bed and I'm looking after the 3yo toddler... Already run out of ideas how to amuse him and still got to get through tomorrow... Any ideas to keep me and him both sane?

Yep the freebie has rust holes that need welding but can't do it with toddler watching 😵 and tisnt fair on the missus to go to Salisbury plains for the day...
 
Not sure if there's a fred for dadvice here but wife sick in bed and I'm looking after the 3yo toddler... Already run out of ideas how to amuse him and still got to get through tomorrow... Any ideas to keep me and him both sane?

Yep the freebie has rust holes that need welding but can't do it with toddler watching 😵 and tisnt fair on the missus to go to Salisbury plains for the day...
Park - feed dux, swings etc. Zoo. Swimming. Train ride. Landy oil change.
 
I live very rurally. My supply comes off the big main pipe as it travels from the huge one which is ongoing for many miles to other distant villages. It comes along the side of the adjoining farmer's field before reaching the little lane which runs through our hamlet Here, this pipe is fitted with all the necessary 'bits', including a prv, before it carries on away from our little hamlet and on and on and on to ? I am the only person in our hamlet who uses this 'new' supply everyone is still on the old disintegrating pipework. My supply is under so much pressure because it is 't'd off into my side garden from this main pipe BEFORE the prv is installed. All workers who have been given the job refuse to do it in my garden stating that it must be put on where my supply is 't'd into the main one BEFORE it comes onto my property. I have already had 2 major bursts between my stopcock and the main pipe where it is 't'd, the last one needing lots of work to reinstate my patio and taking four months to complete because of the amount of damage done to the underlying ground, four of the original paving slabs or any pieces of them have ever been found and all but four of the other twelve were found in pieces amongst the mud! It seems that this leak had been there for many months before it appeared overground - under my patio. Damage to the foundations of my bungalow is still to be assessed and can't be done properly until the ground dries out - this is over a year ago now and after all the rain over the last nine months the chances of it happening any time soon are remote! All workers agree that water under this pressure should not be entering my property and a prv is needed BEFORE it comes over my boundary. I do not store water anywhere in the house everything comes directly from the mains. ( I won't go into the costs of all the ruined appliances before the reason for all the troubles was discovered). I have had a prv installed before my (second)CH boiler. My house stopcock is hardly open! My gardener was lucky to be alive when the second hopepipe burst less than a meter away from him, even the visiting water company inspector remarked that this was very dangerous!!!!

I hope this gives you some idea of the situation.
Time for a letter to your MP. The water company must be failing in its duty of care if they know its dangerous and doing nothing about it.
 
Nothing fills, all appliances work directly off the mains. I do not have any tanks anywhere. The only thing I have now done is have a prv fitted into the pipewok supplying the (second) ch boiler. This was done when my boiler engineer discovered the problem was the mains pressure!
It was meant as an example of you flushing a loo or turning on a tap. The pressure will drop for a short time then when everything has stopped running it will be the same pressure both side of the stopcock regardless of how open/closed it is.

J
 
Park - feed dux, swings etc. Zoo. Swimming. Train ride. Landy oil change.

All good ideas, thanks! We got out to the park and fed some pigeons (n rats) and did some jobs in garden and watched the whole of YouTube and so we're totally ready for a change up...

You've just reminded me that steering juice needs changing on the landy... Haven't ever done it before actually and might not be a long job but with the toddler running off with tools every 2 mins i might stretch it out all day...
 
Pressure will only be reduced while the xxx is filling because of reduced flow, once full, pressure will be the same both sides of the stop cock.

J
I did once have someone explain how a pressure reducer worked. Can't remember the explanation now,
So here it is.
 
Time for a letter to your MP. The water company must be failing in its duty of care if they know its dangerous and doing nothing about it.
2nd that.
Tempting to just refuse to pay the bill, at least in its entirety, until safety priority work is done. They can't cut you off, they can take you to court to get the money back. But maybe that would spur them on to doing what they are supposed to do.
 
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I live very rurally. My supply comes off the big main pipe as it travels from the huge one which is ongoing for many miles to other distant villages. It comes along the side of the adjoining farmer's field before reaching the little lane which runs through our hamlet Here, this pipe is fitted with all the necessary 'bits', including a prv, before it carries on away from our little hamlet and on and on and on to ? I am the only person in our hamlet who uses this 'new' supply everyone is still on the old disintegrating pipework. My supply is under so much pressure because it is 't'd off into my side garden from this main pipe BEFORE the prv is installed. All workers who have been given the job refuse to do it in my garden stating that it must be put on where my supply is 't'd into the main one BEFORE it comes onto my property. I have already had 2 major bursts between my stopcock and the main pipe where it is 't'd, the last one needing lots of work to reinstate my patio and taking four months to complete because of the amount of damage done to the underlying ground, four of the original paving slabs or any pieces of them have ever been found and all but four of the other twelve were found in pieces amongst the mud! It seems that this leak had been there for many months before it appeared overground - under my patio. Damage to the foundations of my bungalow is still to be assessed and can't be done properly until the ground dries out - this is over a year ago now and after all the rain over the last nine months the chances of it happening any time soon are remote! All workers agree that water under this pressure should not be entering my property and a prv is needed BEFORE it comes over my boundary. I do not store water anywhere in the house everything comes directly from the mains. ( I won't go into the costs of all the ruined appliances before the reason for all the troubles was discovered). I have had a prv installed before my (second)CH boiler. My house stopcock is hardly open! My gardener was lucky to be alive when the second hopepipe burst less than a meter away from him, even the visiting water company inspector remarked that this was very dangerous!!!!

I hope this gives you some idea of the situation.
Complaint to local MP about "Lack of Duty Of Care" from Water Co. Leaving a vulnerable person in a dangerous position ought to hurry them up bit?
 
Another thing that I've seen happen in areas which are a holiday destination is that the longer term tenancies may only be for 6 months or so during the quiet period, and in the summer the landlords try to kick the tenants out so they can make more money with shorter term holiday lets. The sort of place that makes, say £900 a month during the winter can make that much a week in the summer.

Personally, I've never had a problem with private renting. I know tenants and landlords fall out all the time, but it's never happened to me. It's not a bundle of fun from the landlords' point of view either. The people I know who've attempted to rent out spare houses have had loads of trouble. After the first couple of payments, rent is seldom forthcoming, and any furniture or carpets left in the house are quickly destroyed. Moreover, doors are pulled off their hinges, and something similar happens to the kitchen cupboards. The tops are broken off the taps and water left to seep through the floors and fetch the plaster off ceilings in the rooms below. In addition to this, you get the occasional DIY enthusiast tenant who performs unauthorised alterations. An ex-partner of mine and her husband returned to their rented-out house one day to discover that an internal wall had been knocked out and the debris deposited in the garden. Another friend who moved to Brighton and let out her flat in Birmingham was pleased to discover that her prospective tenant was a police officer. Oh great, nice responsible job, he's going to be sensible and no trouble at all. Soon she was to learn otherwise, as she was subjected to a barrage of complaints, such as that the toilet cistern took too long to refill. He started deducting money from the rent because of all the things that weren't to his liking. So she was left out of pocket because he ended up paying only a fraction of the original rent. By the time she's served the section 21 notice and gained a possession order (which was difficult because he was paying part of the rent rather than not at all, apparently) it cost her quite a bit to get rid of him, whilst in the meantime he'd had bargain-priced accommodation. I could go on but that provides a flavour of the experience. I'm glad I kept away from all that myself. It sounds very stressful.
I lived in a shared house in Ashcombe near Dawlish when a student doing my PGCE at Exeter. I left at the end of the the year before the other two, they got chucked out and had to sofa surf till they left as the landlord chucked them out, he had holiday guests booked in. Very posh bloke, had inherited a huge estate and they had lived there for 3 years, (term time October to June), the bloke had been totally decent with them up till then.
Mebbe he realised they were both graduating and wouldn't be wanting to come back.
We also had tenants in our place in Poole who decided to make home improvements, ripping out fitted furniture etc. Typically they were the last ones and we didn't have time to sort things out as we needed to sell pretty quick. They cost us about £30k due to the state they left the place in. AND they were short on the rent. Took 'em to court, won the case but never saw the money, as only to be expected. The bloke even blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him!!
 
Absolutely.
If you are living in a council place or some form of housing association, and are looking to move into the private rented sector that is a massive step which will cost you a load more financially, will be far more precarious and, I would imagine, be pretty much irreversible. It would be easier if you were in a couple or had a family but not much.
On the local "Nextdoor" website there are always people moaning on about how awful their landlords are and I personally would be very wary of moving into that sector. Inland things may be a bit different but near the coast and /or universities there is always the competition of holiday and student lets which pushes prices up like mad.
When we sold our place in Poole that we had rented out for a number of years, the last tenant told us that this twas the third time it had happened to him, so three places in three years. (We had to sell to finance the build here.)
I think what I am really saying is, think long and hard before burning your bridges.

Many thks as always , hopefully it won’t be as complicated when I moved to New York , lol
 
I'm sorry to hear that @gstuart - I thought you were still pretty comfortable in the Discovery for longer periods. I've only driven one of the late model Discoverys once, and it felt like being in a hovercraft on wheels. About as wide as one too. It was like being on an air cushion.

For what it's worth, I dunno if downsizing to a smaller and supposedly cheaper car will help much. By the time you've taken the loss from depreciation on the existing one, bought another one, taxed and insured it, made good its outstanding problems (which it's bound to have), got it through another MOT and so on, you've probably only saved yourself a month's rent at Dorset prices. At the most.

Many thks , indeed will try and keep the discovery for as long as possible and indeed understand where ur coming from with starting again so to speak with a new motor , been there done that, lol

must confess the D3 is in very good condition including the chassis and bodywork , can’t believe next year it will be 20 x years old , thks again and indeed wouldn’t get rid of it if it didn’t make long term sense
 
As Landlords of 2 houses in a seaside, holiday town. We don't chase the holiday peeps. We actually encourage them to sign for 3yrs (well actually I think its 35mths). Because it costs them and us every time a new agreement has to be taken out.
Being remote Landlords we have agents and they visit and report as part of the deal. We fix everything that is listed, (you would fix it if it was your own house wouldn't you?)

Thing is those chasing rents are often chasing mortgage payments, We are not, We prefer long term.
Yes we have had 1 bad tenant but that's the deposit system and the letting agents so We weren't out of pocket (except for a few months rent cos it wasn't rented).

There are some good landlords and tenants out there.
We are now in 8yrs on 1 and 4yrs on the other which is sadly coming up this year at the tenants request to leave.


Oh and @gstuart dont be too worried about the no pets policy its a standard line in a tenancy agreement, if you ask they may likely accept a small pet, we have accepted cats and small dogs, May lose deposit on leaving for cleaning purposes though.

J

Many thks and good to know with regards to the small dog policy
 
I live very rurally. My supply comes off the big main pipe as it travels from the huge one which is ongoing for many miles to other distant villages. It comes along the side of the adjoining farmer's field before reaching the little lane which runs through our hamlet Here, this pipe is fitted with all the necessary 'bits', including a prv, before it carries on away from our little hamlet and on and on and on to ? I am the only person in our hamlet who uses this 'new' supply everyone is still on the old disintegrating pipework. My supply is under so much pressure because it is 't'd off into my side garden from this main pipe BEFORE the prv is installed. All workers who have been given the job refuse to do it in my garden stating that it must be put on where my supply is 't'd into the main one BEFORE it comes onto my property. I have already had 2 major bursts between my stopcock and the main pipe where it is 't'd, the last one needing lots of work to reinstate my patio and taking four months to complete because of the amount of damage done to the underlying ground, four of the original paving slabs or any pieces of them have ever been found and all but four of the other twelve were found in pieces amongst the mud! It seems that this leak had been there for many months before it appeared overground - under my patio. Damage to the foundations of my bungalow is still to be assessed and can't be done properly until the ground dries out - this is over a year ago now and after all the rain over the last nine months the chances of it happening any time soon are remote! All workers agree that water under this pressure should not be entering my property and a prv is needed BEFORE it comes over my boundary. I do not store water anywhere in the house everything comes directly from the mains. ( I won't go into the costs of all the ruined appliances before the reason for all the troubles was discovered). I have had a prv installed before my (second)CH boiler. My house stopcock is hardly open! My gardener was lucky to be alive when the second hopepipe burst less than a meter away from him, even the visiting water company inspector remarked that this was very dangerous!!!!

I hope this gives you some idea of the situation.
Many thks and blimey what a mess , along with the huge amount of stress tied in with it

Indeed writing to ur MP but then it’s all ur time and worry of when will it get sorted , wonder who the governing body is for ur water board are as maybe they can assist

So sorry to hear of all the agro ur having and its resolved sooner rather than later , apologises that’s not much help but will mull it over in case I can think of anything from a plumbers point of view
 
I'm sorry to hear that @gstuart - I thought you were still pretty comfortable in the Discovery for longer periods. I've only driven one of the late model Discoverys once, and it felt like being in a hovercraft on wheels. About as wide as one too. It was like being on an air cushion.

For what it's worth, I dunno if downsizing to a smaller and supposedly cheaper car will help much. By the time you've taken the loss from depreciation on the existing one, bought another one, taxed and insured it, made good its outstanding problems (which it's bound to have), got it through another MOT and so on, you've probably only saved yourself a month's rent at Dorset prices. At the most.
A small car is cheaper to run. 60 to the gallon is more than twice what a d3 will do. Parts and servicing are cheaper. The sooner it goes the sooner his motoring costs drop.
 
I live very rurally. My supply comes off the big main pipe as it travels from the huge one which is ongoing for many miles to other distant villages. It comes along the side of the adjoining farmer's field before reaching the little lane which runs through our hamlet Here, this pipe is fitted with all the necessary 'bits', including a prv, before it carries on away from our little hamlet and on and on and on to ? I am the only person in our hamlet who uses this 'new' supply everyone is still on the old disintegrating pipework. My supply is under so much pressure because it is 't'd off into my side garden from this main pipe BEFORE the prv is installed. All workers who have been given the job refuse to do it in my garden stating that it must be put on where my supply is 't'd into the main one BEFORE it comes onto my property. I have already had 2 major bursts between my stopcock and the main pipe where it is 't'd, the last one needing lots of work to reinstate my patio and taking four months to complete because of the amount of damage done to the underlying ground, four of the original paving slabs or any pieces of them have ever been found and all but four of the other twelve were found in pieces amongst the mud! It seems that this leak had been there for many months before it appeared overground - under my patio. Damage to the foundations of my bungalow is still to be assessed and can't be done properly until the ground dries out - this is over a year ago now and after all the rain over the last nine months the chances of it happening any time soon are remote! All workers agree that water under this pressure should not be entering my property and a prv is needed BEFORE it comes over my boundary. I do not store water anywhere in the house everything comes directly from the mains. ( I won't go into the costs of all the ruined appliances before the reason for all the troubles was discovered). I have had a prv installed before my (second)CH boiler. My house stopcock is hardly open! My gardener was lucky to be alive when the second hopepipe burst less than a meter away from him, even the visiting water company inspector remarked that this was very dangerous!!!!

I hope this gives you some idea of the situation.
I defiantly think the PRV should be installed before pipe entering your boundary even at the T section at the large mains should be prioritised by your water company
 
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