Disco 2 Highly priced car. Values?

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Good provinence, most likely a full paperwork trail. mint inside and out, but 11k :D

But just look at how few unmolested 200/300 v8s are left.
 
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The wider classic car scene (Practical Classics is an excellent magazine and I wish that the LR mags were as good) has in the last twelve months started to appreciate the Discovery1 as an emerging classic, but like all newcomers to recieve that recognition it is only the best examples that initially benefit.. as time passes the rougher examples with less good provenance and history and condition etc begin to be elevated as worthy resto or rejuvination projects because by then values have risen and it suddenly becomes economicly viable to pour time and cash into a poorer example.

In my opinion the D2 will follow this same trajectory because it is the last affordable TD5 model and the purists will deem it as the last readily available 'proper LR product' before BMW/ford/Tata got too involved. The classis car scene love authentic British as crap as that product may be (eg Austin Allegro's, Maxi's, Princess's have gone through the roof as are now many other BL & Rover cars). I predict the remainig D2's still on the road with an mot, solid chassis, good condition, sensible mileage, good service history, low owners etc etc creeping up in value in a year or two, however, that market force upwards will be running in direct conflict with the bigger picture of anti big oil burners, road excise hikes, congestion charges, fuel price hikes amd the general acceleration of the electric car and driverless car phenomenon that is going to gather momentum faster than a fast thing very soon. Watch this space, interesting times ahead in the realm of 'personal mobility' in towns and cities.

Buy a good D2 now while they are cheap and add value to it with lots of tlc and it will be a sound hobby/investment.
 
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QCT are just round the corner from me and I bought an old MX5 from them many years ago. They do seem to only source cars in cracking condition having had a look round their place. The MX5 is still going strong.
 
In recent years I have been very close to buying either a MK1 or 2 MX5 myself, I found locating one with a good chassis not so easy, much like a D2 in fact! Fun, soft top, affordable motoring .... happy days! However, my wife, two kids and Springer Spaniel and four bicycles wont fit!!
 
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Imagine the future value of say a late ES with diff lock, galvanised chassis, AMC head ect. All ancillaries refurbished .

Could go up

Better get saving for chassis I suppose
 
I paid around 5k for a 2004 Landmark TD5 a few months ago. Rust free, FSH and a new engine 60k ago (has around 115k on the clock). I thought that was reasonable as some people want top money for ****e.

They're really the only affordable Landrover at the moment unless you look at "project" defenders or tatty D3's.
 
D2 is either very popular or very unreliable as the disco section is mainly full of D2 threads.
 
A good late D2 is worth 5k in my eyes, if its solid, clean and all working, they are easy to maintain, reliable if you look after them, go anywhere, still look modern, practical, although not as refined as a modern car, but are made stronger, if you get a D3 and it goes wrong you could buy a D2 for the price of fixing it, thing is everybody wants things for fookall, but you soon can rack up exspense in parts and labour if you cannot do it yersell, there is good, but there is Bad, caution when buying unless you do your homework,
 
Interesting thoughts and comments. I am new to the LR scene this D2 is my first and only owned three months as a second car for road trips and general hobby polishing and tinkering while it sits in my garage. Drove it to France 900 mile trip and then very recently to the IOW 1100 round trip - he never missed a beat. They are sluggish and agriculteral but ooozz charachter and I have always liked the look /aesthetics of the D2 over the D1 and D3. Me and my young family are looking forward to many more roadtrip miles in 'Big Larry' !
 
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D2 is either very popular or very unreliable as the disco section is mainly full of D2 threads.

I have a mate with one and it’s endless problems, leaking roof, and electrical gremlins cause problems most weeks

If you fix the sunroof leak properly the first time it will last a life time so how it can be a weekly occurrence is beyond me. I would rate them as one of the most reliable Land Rovers ever made, I ran my last D2 Td5 for five years with only one issue other than routine maintenance (ignition lock disintegrated internally). I've had my current one 3 years and it too has been extremely reliable although it has needed a few age related repairs. All cars have niggles and the D2 is no exception. A leaking sunroof in a 20 year old car can hardly be listed as an unreliability issue. Wheel/hub bearings will need replacing every 100,000 miles otherwise you will get the infamous 3 amigos but these are very simple to do and much easier than the Defender with all its separate components. The injector wiring loom was a known issue as were the early oil pump sprocket bolt etc. but these should all have been sorted by now. Occasional issues with the odd sensor but nothing compared to other vehicles and also very easily fixed. A twenty year old 4x4 is going to need regular repairs / maintenance to keep tip top but they are very simple to do.
 
Ive had many discos 200/300/td5 and all of them always had a snag list of repairs that constantly needed attention, I did approx 40/50k in each of them.

On the other hand my current D3 has been pretty much trouble free for 3.5 yrs now, but is now needing some tlc/cash, it is the first land rover that I have ever owned that didnt need something doing weekly, bit like a normal car actually.
 
If you fix the sunroof leak properly the first time it will last a life time so how it can be a weekly occurrence is beyond me. I would rate them as one of the most reliable Land Rovers ever made, I ran my last D2 Td5 for five years with only one issue other than routine maintenance (ignition lock disintegrated internally). I've had my current one 3 years and it too has been extremely reliable although it has needed a few age related repairs. All cars have niggles and the D2 is no exception. A leaking sunroof in a 20 year old car can hardly be listed as an unreliability issue. Wheel/hub bearings will need replacing every 100,000 miles otherwise you will get the infamous 3 amigos but these are very simple to do and much easier than the Defender with all its separate components. The injector wiring loom was a known issue as were the early oil pump sprocket bolt etc. but these should all have been sorted by now. Occasional issues with the odd sensor but nothing compared to other vehicles and also very easily fixed. A twenty year old 4x4 is going to need regular repairs / maintenance to keep tip top but they are very simple to do.

Yep. Was fixed 'proeprly' by an indy first time, went back less than 4 months later and 'repaired' again (new seals and all these other bits apparently. Still Leaks.
UV trace done, deffo sunroof. Main dealer. Even they cant stop it leaking.

Seems to eat hubs yearly, even with genuine parts. Height sensors the same, again genuine parts. Various other niggles keep cropping up.

I would argue the D2 is more complicated to repair than a defender due to the electrical complexity, especially of the more 'spec'd up ones'

I am sure there are good ones out there, just as there are good defenders out there to. My defender is good, and sounds like your D2 is aswell.
 
Very hard to think of anything else that would fill the space the D2 occupies. I thought of an L322 but in the end it seemed a bit OTT for my purposes. Added to that I think the Discovery is a much better looking car and has a very purposeful feel. I am completely blown away by the feel of this car off road albeit in moderate situations so far. It has great internal space and has a great outlook due to the height/ window design etc.

In terms of future values, any car that rusts badly and is special in its own way is going to be worth looking at as they diminish in numbers in a steady stream day by day as they become uneconomical to repair and then the good ones become harder and harder to find until people start to take notice of them. I have an early Saab 900 which is in exactly the same situation. Ebay full of breakers and very few good cars.

Anyway the Discovery is a lovely car and all the issues and problems (which lets face it we enjoy fixing) aside I wouldn't chose anything else.
 
TomGc61, you mention the early Saab 900 and it's inevitable rise in value - I bought a 1989 G reg Volvo 740Turbo Intercooler estate off the original owner five years ago. Enjoyed it, used it, lavished lots of time and tlc but only a few quid on it - sold it recently for £2850.. that's cheap motoring! In fact I've enjoyed many cars in the same way always adding value and allow the market forces to work for me... I only mention the Volvo as another model from the Swedish stable and it links in with your accurate summary of how certian vehicles creep up and why.
 
View attachment 163064 View attachment 163062 View attachment 163063 The wider classic car scene (Practical Classics is an excellent magazine and I wish that the LR mags were as good) has in the last twelve months started to appreciate the Discovery1 as an emerging classic, but like all newcomers to recieve that recognition it is only the best examples that initially benefit.. as time passes the rougher examples with less good provenance and history and condition etc begin to be elevated as worthy resto or rejuvination projects because by then values have risen and it suddenly becomes economicly viable to pour time and cash into a poorer example.

In my opinion the D2 will follow this same trajectory because it is the last affordable TD5 model and the purists will deem it as the last readily available 'proper LR product' before BMW/ford/Tata got too involved. The classis car scene love authentic British as crap as that product may be (eg Austin Allegro's, Maxi's, Princess's have gone through the roof as are now many other BL & Rover cars). I predict the remainig D2's still on the road with an mot, solid chassis, good condition, sensible mileage, good service history, low owners etc etc creeping up in value in a year or two, however, that market force upwards will be running in direct conflict with the bigger picture of anti big oil burners, road excise hikes, congestion charges, fuel price hikes amd the general acceleration of the electric car and driverless car phenomenon that is going to gather momentum faster than a fast thing very soon. Watch this space, interesting times ahead in the realm of 'personal mobility' in towns and cities.

Buy a good D2 now while they are cheap and add value to it with lots of tlc and it will be a sound hobby/investment.


Fook me that is smart!!

Hmm :D
 
TomGc61, you mention the early Saab 900 and it's inevitable rise in value - I bought a 1989 G reg Volvo 740Turbo Intercooler estate off the original owner five years ago. Enjoyed it, used it, lavished lots of time and tlc but only a few quid on it - sold it recently for £2850.. that's cheap motoring! In fact I've enjoyed many cars in the same way always adding value and allow the market forces to work for me... I only mention the Volvo as another model from the Swedish stable and it links in with your accurate summary of how certian vehicles creep up and why.


Rare but decent cars.

Were very common with caravanners a few years ago
 
£11K seems OTT to me, you can buy a decent TD5 Defender for that. I looked at a lot of D2s over the summer and as they are relatively cheap (for a LR), I reasoned I should only settle for a good one. I therefore looked at the expensive end of the market from £5K up to £9K and rapidly realised that price is no guarantee of quality. I wanted an ES/ES Premium/Landmark spec with a CDL so focused on 2003/4 cars. After 3 months I had found one fairly good car at £6.8K, but it needed a new headlining and the sunroofs and air con didn't work, and despite the assertion of the owner it did not have CDL, nor a transfer box that was fitted for one. Giving up on top price cars I eventually expanded my search to cheaper ones I have previously filtered out, and rapidly found a 1999 ES that had a rust free chassis, a rebuilt engine 12K ago, CDL retro-fitted, a facelifted front end and all for £3.8K. Apart from parking sensors (which I have now fitted) it is pretty much indistinguishable from a later car, but has cheaper road tax and no catalyst to worry about.
Good ones are increasingly rare and as with any 14-19 yr old car, there will always be things that will need fixing no matter how much you spend, but there are some great cars out there for way less than £11K. You are better off keeping cash in reserve to fix the things you will inevitably find are wearing out.
 
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