Help with seals please oil v grease?

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ChrisBduck

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Hi gents.
Need a bit of advice please. I have a 1986 90 with orginal axle I believe. If definitely only has a level and drain hole in hub so should be filled with oil not grease. Just stripped everything apart and it has a front and rear hub/bearing oil seal. It also has a seal in stub (attached) which is obviously shot as oil is flying out the end of shaft's and on to wheel. I had two seals but also got two in the wheel bearing kit. Which combo do you suggest and should I leave the seal in stub knackered to aid shafts end lubrication?
I'm in garage at mo putting back together and stuck at this point.
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Oh yeah, front axle, sorry.
My gut is telling me just frc8221 in rear of hub and leave the rest open to get oiled. Would this work or am I better off with grease and sealing the bearings in?
 
If going with oil fed bearings would you still grease them in instillation, or would this contaminate different oil?
Cheers
 
IME, greased wheel bearings are better than fine - I'd rebuild the axle as per LR original spec ... but I'd upgrade the swivel lubrication to one shot grease, which LR changed over to for everything anyway.

IMHO, and IME, I would also use a better grease for the wheel bearings - I use Castrol Pyroplex Red, and plenty of it .... funny how in 50 odd years of doing this, we've never had a wheel bearing fail.

:)
 
Also, it's good to see you using Corteco seals - the only one's worth bothering with IMHO ( much like Timken wheel bearings ).
 
Got the Tim ken bearings too :)
One of the other reasons I asked was I have corteco seals which are for greased and Bearmach (made in China generic seals) for oil fed.
 
Got the Tim ken bearings too :)
One of the other reasons I asked was I have corteco seals which are for greased and Bearmach (made in China generic seals) for oil fed.
grease and oil mix ok rear axle will need an oil seal as theres no way to stop oil entering the hub,the front as a seal as can be seen
 
Got the Tim ken bearings too :)
One of the other reasons I asked was I have corteco seals which are for greased and Bearmach (made in China generic seals) for oil fed.

That'd make the decision for me in any event ;)

I did my timing belt using a supposed "OEM" crank seal = big mistake :mad: :rolleyes: - had to do it again (yawn) new belt etc. ... and a genuine corteco seal - no problems .... yet ;)
 
Thanks gents
Corteco seals it is then.
On last question then the one that goes in the back of the hub I'm fine with. The one that goes in the front however I'm unsure of. Would it go lip side towards the bearing and flat face towards outer to stop grease coming out. Or other way around to stop oil getting in?
 
Forget that, just realised how stupid that question is. In theory no oil should be up there trying to get in lol :oops:
 
Thanks gents
Corteco seals it is then.
On last question then the one that goes in the back of the hub I'm fine with. The one that goes in the front however I'm unsure of. Would it go lip side towards the bearing and flat face towards outer to stop grease coming out. Or other way around to stop oil getting in?
if you have a 2 seal hub the outer seal faces the oil ie garter spring does, it stops oil reaching the hub, which would have greased bearings and a grease seal as inner seal
 
Well this is confusing. o_O
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Outer seal RTC3511G has two garter rings. Am I right in thinking pic 1 facing out, pic two facing in?
It appears my seal belongs to someone called Angus, at least it's his name stamped on seal lol
 
I'm confused now! o_O
Just putting it all together and can't work out hour the front outer seal actually seals enough to keep out oil. It doesn't fit around stub axle to a tight fit as the rear does and the washer that presses against it before the nut would surely just let oil wash past it.
Also the corteco RTC3511G seems slightly too big to fit the Hub.
Do you think I'll be OK just fitting the FRC8221 at the back, greasing the bearings before fitment (will this contaminate the diff oil?), and leaving the front open to oil everything at will?
 
Well bugger that then. I'm not buying more bits. It's going back to bearings running in oil. I suppose at least it will be no oils leak equals no water ingress. Oil leaks means something needs fixing
 
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